When can Russia expect a top tier IFV?

BMP-2M is more effective than 90%+ of IFVs in game all the way up to 12.0+. It is a superior vehicle to the Puma and KF41 in general effectiveness despite the much lower BR…

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nice jocke use the word “armor” with the kf 41 It is literally the worst IFV of those tiers, it is 7 stories tall with a non-remote turret and has no armor, please let’s not use that vehicle in serious discussions.
I agree that Russia has more Ifvs to be added but we are far from the T-15 Armata as it is a monster would be inserted at 12.7 after 2 seconds

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How about giving other nations a working IFV first before russia gets a fith?

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It’s a very nice way to filter out people who clearly don’t have any idea what they’re talking about though. If they try to bring up KF41 or Puma in a positive light, especially compared to russian IFVs, you can write them off as players who don’t know what they’re talking about and are biased in their assessments due to what nation they decided to play.

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Bmp2 is much more resistant to auto cannons than any of the other ifvs

Adding to this in my experience fighting BMP 2m whilst on my m3a3 is much more annoying than puma or kf41, puma and kf41 die pretty easily to my cannon but the bmp2m is way more trolly from the front.

BMP-2M also one of the only IFVs in game they allow to still fire ATGMs at any speed.

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Kornets in general I feel are the best atgms only because every other competitor is heavily gimped.

11.0 for u is toptier for example puma in toptier is weak but bmp2m in toptier is more capable thx for 8 1200mm pen missile and 30mm gun with apfsds and lower br …

fk41 have armor? what and puma have armor vs atgms but not vs atgm with tandem warhead and no vs apfsds is a single shot

and now want to see the puma rmor vs bmp2m missile please… bmp have hight firerate 30 mm gun and 1200mm pen missile puma what have armor? but not vs apfsds and slow autocanon wich no pen mbts in front…

clearly you dont understand, take your time and read everyhting. There is a big difference when talking about armor and fire power. yes armor is not good but the bmp can be 50cal while your complain about with 70mm to 110mm

who hurt you, this is a group discussion, we share info and personnal idea, yet here you are, i think that way so you got no reason

yeah sure, fire forget missile with top attack and 20kmh movement launch who can destroy target even behinde a hill if they hide is better that a laser guided missile, yes the pen and tnt and a lot different if you think its wrong, might start learning to make suggestion and reports

i am having a stroke trying to understand you

did you read the convo at least to have a nice argument ?? take you time bud

I didn’t even mention you. However since you asked, people “hurt me” by trying to give the nation with the best IFVs, better IFVs, because said users do not understand that their IFVs are already the best.

You have no idea how the spike works or performs.

Repeat, you have no idea how the spike works or performs.

You are clearly not aware of the Spike’s massive flaws and the reasons why it’s not considered a great ATGM on these specific vehicles.

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*Puma

lol
No where close to a top tier IFV.

It barely competes with the IFVs of its own BR area. Then again, it’s a modification of a Soviet tank, so of course it’s going to be bad for top tier.

We can still hold it against gaijin until it’s implemented in game for that gun))) (especially considering the poor dispersion of slow firing NATO autocannons designed for accuracy)

comparing a no armor fast firing bmp2 with no fire forget to a puma of namer and saying is a best ifv ??

i played with spikes, no a lot matchs, but i get kill a lot by them

Spikes often take 2-3 repeat impacts on the same target to secure the kill in addition to usually only being carried in small amounts. The Puma and KF41 both get a whopping 4 spikes which could be anywhere from 4 kills if you’re lucky to 0 kills if they do basically anything to avoid them. Then, your main cannon is far worse than the BMP-2M’s cannon. The BMP-2M ATGMs are also extremely fast, guide and track extremely well compared to other ATGMs, and can be fired on the move the same way the spikes can be. The BMP-2M is just a better vehicle in the meta with its upsides mattering a lot more than the kf41 or puma’s upsides and its downsides mattering less than the kf41 or puma’s downsides.

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