hesh is on paper and irl the best anti armour round, in game you can hit a panther mantlet with 183mm hesh and do nothing, if you hit the upper front plate, an angled surface, literally what hesh is designed to counter, it destroys both tracks and nothing else. Hit the engine deck of a tam with 105mm, doesn’t overpressure, literally made the engine yellow lmao. hesh is incomprehensibly broken right now, and there is literally no argument against this.
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That guy always has the weirdest takes in here.
can you imagine if gaijin did an fps, dudes got to the door and try to breach it with c4 and nothing would happen?
I think another massive feature of Hesh IRL is that its reliable that it will detonate and cause damage,
E.g
If a CR2 shoots a T80 in the UFP with hesh, even if it doesnt penetrate the tank, which it likely wouldn’t, It would still cause massive damage to the areas surrounding it, and possibly even send a scab inside, more likely itll demolish the barrel and other aspects such as that, leaving the T80 Out of action.
(this is an example not 100 percent fact) more shows hwo the round works
However in game you can wallope the side of a BMP2 with a 120mm Hesh from a chieftain and do absolutely. nothing.
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At the very least would probably take out the tracks and rattle the crew inside enough to completely disoritate or maybe even injure them
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Yeah you get my point, it wouldnt just detonate on the front and do absolutely nothing xD
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Yeah, what is most damming is the clips of unarmoured targets like Pantsir/FlakRads tanking hits and barely loosing a tyre.
HESH is definetly fundamentally broken.
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Gaijin couldn’t screw over British designs harder if they tried. Solid shot and APDS do no damage and so many things are overtired and blatantly inaccurate. The British Sherman is 3.7 when the same tank in the US tree is 3.3. tortoise is missing centimetres of armour. Scimitar and fox have been gimped beyond viability and HESH flat out does not function
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what solid shots we talking here
Fox ive not seen the changes, the scimitar was useless from the get go, based off the scorpion and which is the fastest tank in the world, yet its barely able to go 70kph in game xD
Know what is even more annoying btw, when hesh does work and you feel great, I got a kill with it hte other day and was over the moon, then since then “hit”
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Any damn wheeled light man, acts as if theyre layered in spaced reactice amrour -.-
Shot a rooikat with 105mm hesh from my type 74 and it done literally nothing.
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Turret traverse got halved. It’s not so slow you’re genuinely useless unless you’re sniping, which you’re useless at because you’re shooting IS3 tanks
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That sounds incredibly silly, wheres the report for that? i never seen it in the patch notes…
The bug report was complete guesswork. massive thanks to jarms for ruining the only super fun vehicle at any BR with a guesswork report
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RuPCHKHo71e6
he also did the same shoddy guesswork for the scimitar making it even more trash
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mzt5kgFMfvW6
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Wait theres genuinely no documentation to go with it, while I know we cant see submitted documents, usually when someone actually makes a bug report to change something, they need to provide sources??? they havent mentioned it at all.
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Also the turret rotation speed was literally what was its main advertisement when released
Ive read the manuals and literally own a brochure made to sell the scimitar tank to foreign armies and there is NO OFFICIAL FIGURE for the turret traverse speed in any of these documents ever.
his only source was that the fox (that entered British service) and scimitar use the same turret ring and hand powered traverse gear. the reports should have been thrown out for insufficient information to back his claim of actual speed.
anything to nerf a British vehicle even if it is through unfair means
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Yeah ive just read about 4 different documents, with the search function, the word rotation showed up once and it was not about the turrets rotational speed.
secondly, with the word turret typed into the search function I just got guided to various mentions of a fast speed but no specific numbers.
(also the source stated in his bug report doesnt exist according to google, the fox user manual, isnt a thing.)
mate, my unspaded and stock turret traverse is barely 18 degrees persecond, whats the point in using the fox, or scim at all now. the scim already sucked, adn the fox had its turret traverse n mobility, now its just a mobile tank that cant aim anywhere xD
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I aced the fox within two days of it coming out and have it on a near max crew slot and the full traverse speed is still insufficient to take advantage of any situation.
What is its total maxed traverse speed?
Cause a nerf with no substantial evidence to back it up is wild to me.
it’s not definite numbers its literally his guesswork and they took it and nerfed the damn thing
Does that mean for the chieftains L15A5 i can do the same?
max turret traverse on fox is 30deg/s. chieftain mk10 is 22.5, on a turret heavier than the CVRT or CVRW platforms themselves. the fox and scimitars turret weight is more comparable to A13 mk2. the reserve tier tank that can whip its turret around at 36deg/s.
my own estimations would be more around the 40 degree per second mark so it is very annoying that it was nerfed so brutally.
gaijin set a standard so low by accepting this report that just saying “trust me bro” should be accepted
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