Abrams is very good tho. It have good mobility,second fastest reload after Leclerc/TKX,decent armor and like with every other top tier tank,they gotta aim for weakspots. And hit under turret doesnt mean certain death all the time either, it can only disable horizontal,in which case you still kill your enemy before you reverse into safety for repair.
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Honestly, I don’t understand you. You want to aim for the strongest, most well-protected part of a T90M or T80BVM and think you’re going to penetrate it? That’s the height of American dominance.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA T64??? THERMAL VISION? REVERSE SPEED? SPALL LINER? LOL AJAJAHAHAHAHSJEHEK average american main
I think you’re confusing it with another vehicle, man, but that made me laugh.
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ah yes the guy who plays russian tanks more than the american tanks is an american main…
what you miss understood is this, I said going from T-64 to T-72 to T-80 to T-90 you get upgrades, I did not say T64 has thermal vision, spall liner or reverse speed, I said you get these by getting new vehicles and climbing the tree.
going from M1 Abrams to M1A1, M1A2 you just become heavier
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At this point id advise you to check some guides on Abrams, sine youre likely not employing it correctly.
I’m saying 2+2=4, you are saying 4x4=16. I’m saying what entices me to grind the same vehicle again and again and play it stock over and over, you are saying learn to play the game and the new version gets more penetration, sure it gets more pen but not enough pen to negate the armor of enemy mbt, so who cares if you pen 200mm of armor with a round that does 377mm of penetration or an round that does 650mm of penetration.
I’m saying why do we have 8 Abrams (10 with premiums) that all are identical, Im saying where is the M1A1 FEP, Im saying where is the Trophy system on SEP V2, where is the difference between these tanks.
Im grinding through T90A because I want to get T90M that has Relikt ERA, that has Spall liner, that has much better protection, Im grinding through challanger 2 to get black knight because it has hard kill system, does this make sense to you?
I can not say the same thing in USA, Im grinding through my M1A1 HC to get SEP V2 to get TUSK kit that cant even stop tandem ATGM and sit at a higher BR
stop whining. Italy is far worse off than america, the abrams actually has armour, the top ariete at 12.3 gets penned frontally through the turret cheeks by like literally every dart it sees, the abrams is a good tank. also if you are talking about spikes being broken you are actually the most braindead america main I have ever witnessed, spikes are fucking awful they miss literally like half the time and even when they do hit they do no fucking damage, and guaranteed to miss if you deploy smoke or drive behind cover, which is easy because on top of all that they are slow asf.
yup another bright person who cant read anything.
as already stablished im more of Russian main, and looks like you are the only person who has some brain damage because I dont remember ever mentioning spikes, I simply state that going from M1HC to SEP V2 you get era kit that cant even stop tandem atgms, to show that its absurd to call that an upgrade. other than that you have missed the entire point of this topic which is what is the difference between the 10 abrams in the game that are identical, and as the quote above you can see I already brought up France, Italy and Japan.
it means they have to up-BR the click-bait to 12.7 and they wont lol
I agree, the top of the line Abrams kinda sucks. The 10.7 M1 Abrams is easily the best Abrams for their respective BR. SEPv2 should have its Trophy APS added in game to make it even worth playing, but thats a disccusion for another time.
My point is that all Abrams is so dull. Nothing special. Same exact tank with no special addons or anything. Just gun on tracks all the way from 10.7 to 12.7 and its boring while other nations like Russia, Brittain, Isreal, etc. gets APS, LWS, spall liner, and stuff.
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I understand I think the abrams is a pathetic tank, keeping in mind my top tier nations are Japan Italy and china, I don’t think the abrams is the worse vehicle in the game at top tier as I believe the Chinese tanks hold that title they are just awful. But it is riddled with issues, mainly being its weakspots are massive and any form of hit to it will take it out of the fight even if it actually survives the round. This is an issue I think people don’t see yes the abrams can easily take two or three rounds to kill but its more that its not fighting back after that first round hits it. It round is good and its reload is average, probably middle of the pack in mobility, its just honestly the weakspots and how easy it is to disable that makes it pathetic its legit the only thing I see in my type 89 at top tier and think they are dumb for pushing me in it considering I’m always bound to win the fight with how easy that turret ring is to punch through. I also feel like people maybe aren’t understanding your point which is things like we get new abrams models that have weight increases making them slower but no armor increase to match or the era panels not really being useful in any manner since they dont stop most top tier atgms and such. Its an alright tank just kind of hindered by unrealistic weak points and the select addition of tank modules.
Yes finally someone who gets what I’m saying, M1 Abrams is the crown of US tank tree IMO.
yes every Abram is the exact same tank, there is nothing to entice you to get the next one, and what should be there isnt even there, like SEP V2 has been documented to have Trophy APS, not only that but the M1A1 FEP also has the Trophy system on it (plus little small think called Far Target Location (FTL) that lets it see through smoke screens)
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gonna slightly go off topic and rant but the abrams line (Compared to every other tank in game) is basically the jack of all trades type of tank.
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Doesn’t have the best armor layout or protection in general, But isn’t as terrible as an ariete.
Reload is basically on par with everyone else. only beating the USSR sometimes in specific situations.
Gun handling’s pretty decent to great, but lets be honest, only works well with reload.
Mobility isn’t bad, able to usually keep up and be slightly faster then other tanks. Not enough to make a difference in matches though due to the small size of most of em.
Is “Heavily” reliant on crew skills. So anyone that doesn’t ace their tanks are basically on par with the lower end of tanks. (At least in terms of reload, controllability, and gun handling)
Not to mention the turret cheeks only work when your looking straight at the person.
Don’t even get me started on its neck, obviously not artificial Nerf “turret basket”, and lack of spall protection inside the armor itself.
But if you know Exactly how to play the Abrams (Like tournament players) You will come out on top against most enemies specifically because it’s a good jack of all trades.
But anyhow, I’d say the m1a2 would be the final decent abrams to get sense it does do better in the sniping roll due to its DU turret and better shell. (Sure, it won’t be lol penning any good armored tank, But its a higher chance at least)
The AIM might have been slightly better for sniping role since it has endgame Abrams’s FCS, and turret armor is also identical to M1A2’s, trade off is slightly weaker shell but we could aim much better with 13.x zoom instead of 10x from the first M1A2, the gen 3 thermals of AIM do come in handy for a lot of scenarios, especially in a br where miliseconds matter.
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