i only see 5 missiles for rvv-bd. i know it can take 2 fuselage and 2 on inner wings, maybe 2 more on farther out wing stations, but how do you get 8?
2 between intakes
2 on engine naucelles
4 on wings from brochure but only 2 have actually been verified on the innermost pylons, second innermost pylons have only been shown on brochures
(8th one would go where the r77 is placed on this image)
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just to be sure, there arent any loadout restrictions that would prevent them from running this loadout right?
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Can’t think of any
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Idk, personally I think it’s 6.
With the weight of R-37M, it’d line up with things like Kh-29/38s.
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Nothing that we’d be able to report due to slight government security issues.
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Gaijin:
Take 10
Tungsten loaded Su-35…
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I always thought the inner most pylon was the only one capable of carrying those, but tbf seeing how other ordnance (maybe even heavier) can be carried on the nearest pylon, could be. Afterall those things are probably even more than 500kg each.
If pylon drag was introduced, then what would be the top speed of F-15EX with 12 missile and cft?
baseless estimate but like 1.7-1.9 absolute top speed. the newer engines do help it out
It says 12 but photo only shows 5, while the photos and statements are consistent for the others.
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I know, I’m joking.
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Clearly the photos are western propaganda
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Arexis and the French option are both pretty comparably ahead of the rest of the pack. Gripen may be favourite, but French kind of on parity with its ecm. Do not know whether it leans in their favour given low observability features of Rafale though.
8 R-37Ms seems like a waste tbh. No point in trying to lug all that weight around when R-77M will do the same job just as well (if not better)
But don’t worry though. It’ll be a custom loadout option for me 🤣 Move over F-14, Su-35 is coming
Also, slight misunderstanding/question here: but was it ever shown how the R-37M looks after the booster is jettisoned? Or was that too just copium
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Both are going to be using AESA plates, and are omnidirectional. That’s about where the comparaison ends for now.
If we actually could compare power output, we’d be able to have a better idea (even if this still would be very limited since we’d ignore the processing and other sensor fusion stuff).
Maybe we could try to find information on the power output of the electrical generators from the engines ?
A very rough comparaison is that the gripen, being single engined (and has lower total thrust than the other 2*), probably has lower power availability for its electronic compared to the EFT and Rafale. Now, if AREXIS is also mounted on the EFT, is it using the same power budget as the gripen, or can it actually perform even better ?
For the most modern jets, there’s really not much we can infer.
Funnily enough we do have power output of the Mirage 2000 jammers, which is surprising at best…
We can then infer mirage 2000 → rafale → rafale F4, though the problem is that the jammers between M2K and Rafale are different - despite commonality between other sensors
I understood something i think. More engine, more electrical power so more jamming ability? Also if an engine produces more thrust will it generate more electrical power?
On paper, the more power you put in a radar, the longer the range/precision you get. Same for jammers. But that’s a very rough idea, especially when speaking of PESA and AESA radars, which don’t steer the radar beam mechanically but via fancy wave modulation - here, multiple other points have to be taken in consideration. For jammers specifically the more power you have, the more power you can concentrate on a target, blinding it more/better (also depends on how well your radar can concentrate the beam)
One of the key ability of AESA jammers is that they can track and jam multiple targets as well - though the more targets you try to jam the less each target will be effectively jammed - as you’ll distribute the power between different targets.
The radar (and jammers, which are basically radars as well) are the biggest electrical consumers in a plane nowadays. Engines not only need to provide thrust but also generate all that electricity (well into the kW, which could power one if not a few houses pretty easily). Generally, bigger/more engines means that you’ll have more electrical power available, ie we can expect → gripen < rafale < EFT