What will it take for 2S38 to be uptiered the same way it happened to Harrier GR1?

Yet other premium vehicles have seen uptiers in shorter timeframes.
Quickest example; VIDAR.

Russian Premiums have a history of going for the longest periods before seeing uptiers in many cases in comparison to their contemporaries. Ontop of the nonsense BR placements and the very coding itself - It’s very much Russian Bias before anything else.

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What about other premiums like the F-5C, which is still 10.3, or the Su-25 which went up shortly after release. The F-2g should be 6.3, but it’s 6.0. And the Vidar barely went up.

Plus the Turms is fairly balanced now, we just need decompression at higher tiers.
The Bmp-2M should be 10.7 atleast, it’s op when used by the right player, same with the 2S38.

Xp-50 isn’t on the russian tree. Neither all f5s

F5C?
Transonic.
Inconsistent 20mms.
9Es - Only 2.
60 CMs.
No radar.
Damage model can be funky, sure, but generally you smack it with cannons or a missile and it’s done. 10.3 is fine BR-wise. It’s a 1 trick pony - dogfighting is all it has. What is needed is hard BR caps to keep full uptiers from occurring.

I’ll remind you the A-10 went up before the Frogfoot.
F2G being 6.3? I’m not against that being tested.
Vidar being uptiered is still an uptier, regardless of amount as it was near-immediately uptiered post-release.
Turms 3 is not balanced and needs to go to 8.7 - Decompression consideration agreed on and included. I agree on the 2M needing to go to 10.7, and the 2S38 needs to be 11.3 or 11.7BR.

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XP-50 is an anomaly and it should be uptiered to 4.7 with airspawn removed.

See my prior about the F5C. F5E is technically the same, but at a higher BR.
1 trick ponies - dogfighting is all they have.

Ah yes those skilled 9.3 harrier gr 1 airspawn players that were shooting at 8.3 jets that were always pulled against entire harrier gr 1 teams with airspawn that were faster than any of jets from 8.3-9.3 and higher

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Lmao I remember this. every lvl 10 shitter and other worthless trash players would get 4 guaranteed kills each game.

Yep it was worse than 2s38 by hundredfold

It absolutly wasnt “rapidly nerfed”. It came out at 9.7 on October 2022. It sat there completely unchanged for 5 months with its undersized ammo and bugged breach that was in the hull so was invincible if shooting the turret. It was only moved up in br in april when br 11.7 was added and pretty much everything around it went up as well so I hardly count that as a nerf

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You just admitted it was increased in the first BR change since its release.
On top of that, hull wasn’t invisible unless you missed center mass…

Its movement from 9.7 to 10.0 wasn’t due to the characteristics of the vehicle itself. It was moved alongside all other 9.7 tanks to 10.0 as part of decompression.

It wasn’t a “nerf” as all the things it already faced were moved with it.

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There are 2 ways to one shot it. Aim center mass or hit next to the gun. Seems like hitting the ammo belt is a 100% ammo rack in my experience.

Easier said than done for a 9.0 tank, when 2S38 has gen 3 thermals, can pen you anywhere and shoots every 1.5 seconds.

u r talking pure BS

I’ve killed it with a starstreak they are just annoying

TURMS is just solid for its br it not over tired as the my Indian T90 at 10.3 is better in almost every way

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Anyone thinking TURMS should share the same BR as Bhishma is an obvious hater of a certain nation.

It has the same dart but better ERA and higher HP its just better the TURMS is fine where it is

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The TURMS is comparable to the T-72B, trading protection for thermals/zoom.

It doesn’t seem overbearing for 10.0, given all the other T-72 downsides it has.

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