What made the Harrier the most feared 3.5 Gen Dogfighter and why wont Gaijin model it correctly?

It’s not the end all be all for as long as you aren’t engaged in BVR from missiles that aren’t 20 years older than your aircraft.

They don’t have to stay supersonic. They can open as wide of a gap as they want and then drop back to subsonic. The knife and the cheese are in their hands, so to say.

The FA2 only showed up in 1993. It had AMRAAMs, but so did everyone else. Everyone else, of course, being able to throw them from further and higher. If the Harrier can dodge them, so could everyone else.

See above.

Also this thread is extremely reminiscent of that time when EEL fanboys tried to claim it could outperform an F-15. It, in fact, could not.

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A supersonic attacker, and not a very good one at that.

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Harriers had more experienced pilots compensating for shorter range weapons and not a full hand of cards. not fair on both sides at all, shame it wasn’t recreated with a more even playing field

completely agree. Harrier is not a BVR plane.

the lightning outperforms almost every fighter interceptor aircraft up until the likes of the F15 ill give you that.
sounds like an over exaggeration of what EEL fans were claiming as it is quite watered down in WT

You’d think so, but I didn’t believe it until someone showed me screenshots from it. Plus, that’s a double edged sword. It’s really fast until it has to do something that isn’t going fast.

5 years ago must have been a different scape, most of the brit mains I chat to (tend to be the most common to see on the forums) are pretty level headed and are bloody brilliant at research.

well it wasn’t designed for anything other than climbing to catch a bomber while getting to mach bejeebus in a near-vertical climb. turning wasn’t in its to-do list

Small nitpick but I think the Harrier is classified as a transonic :)

It wasn’t, but others like the F-106 could do so and outperformed the F-4 in almost every way, while packing a really mean FCS and weapon set. It’s a crime that it hasn’t been added yet.

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It is same as Hunter

agreed. for an aircraft on a much smaller budget from the exact same years its still impressive for the early 1950s

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Half the century series are missing lol.

The voodoo would be awesome imo was a cool jet.

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gaijin went to modern vehicles far too fast we skipped too many cool ones

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I agree with that we should not not now be adding mirage 2000 and later block F-16s

At this rate we will be at F-22 and F-35 in a year or so

well the typhoon should have came after hornet and super hornet. since they are here (super hornet should come soon too I really really hope as that will be great for making russia and china mains cope) there’s no reason not to add raptor and hornet. throw in the GR9a while they are at it too I hope

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What does China and Russia even have to contend with western 4.5 gens.

Apart from there new 5th gen projects they are behind the power curve.

thats the neat thing they dont have anything. I’m sure BVVD will find something for the nation he mains tho

Maybe lol.

It doesn’t affect me if I am honest I don’t actually play above 12.0 really.

Hundreds of active radar missiles flying everywhere isn’t for me lol.

Ill only play that high to mess about, fight some top tier planes in the GR7 or something. I will be torturing F18s in the FA2 when the update drops tho

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Yes it’s a fun plane after the buffs.

Just remember to pull into the vertical after the merge and try maintain 1000 feet altitude above the Hornet and even with the FA.2s underperforming state still you can control the fight with your SEP advantage.

I know, I was responding to Caernervon02

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No worries.

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