hence why i play 8.0 to 11.0 as its gun on gun
If the Harriers were modeled even remotely correctly they would be the best dogfighting planes at 9.7.
Even the 12.0 ones would be extremely strong.
The only way a fighter would even be able to beat it is by remaining supersonic but the harrier would likely outlast that aircraft due to its superior combat endurance times and the opposition fighter needing reheat to maintain high energy states.
The Harrier would have an advantage in the low speed low altitude range. Even against the EFT in a specific but small window.
This is only if the Harrier was modeled correctly ofc it still needs a buff in STR ITR, time to speed, time to climb and max speed, also VIFF has no practical modeling in game where as IRL it can generate Achievable AOA in the effect of 45 degrees up to Mach .4 or so.
As it stands the 9.7 Harriers are missing about 2G in ITR and STR and VIFF is not modeled in war thunder. Therefore they are actually terrible as a gunfighter and should be avoided.
If they get fixed they would slap anything dumb enough to go below 15,000 feet at less than .7 Mach.
Euro fighter for 4th gens/top tier.
J-7E for 3rd gens/earlier supersonic planes.
Mig-19 for 2nd gens/earliest supersonic planes.
Ariete for fully subsonic jets.
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why does the eurofighter turn so well ??
Canards+delta wing and the powerful engines prevent too much energy loss from happening.
but shouldnt the j10a beat it since it has canards delta wiing and thrust vectoring nozzles
J-10B TVC (tech demonstrator) is the one with thrust vectoring WS-10B, the J-10A still uses a russian engine so it falls behind in TWR
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the russian engine is the same as the flanker so shouldnt it have it stock
Think the f16 adf might give em a run for there money if it’s just pure dogfighting?
Not really, it lacks the pure low speed performance to keep up with the deltas and delta-canards
Iirc F-16s have better ultra low speed handling to the delta-canards. So if they energy trap their opponent they could win. But just don’t go low and slow and the delta-canards would be fine.
Eurofighter by a good margin, the people telling you Rafale also believe that the Eurofighter suffers, so do with that what you will.
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thanks ill rember that
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The only time you get a 1 v 1 gun fight is if after you have rearmed you expend all your missiles and merge.
Typhoon being marginally better in this area makes literally no difference.
Slightly better at a gun fight or a MICA EM and Magic 2…hmmm
Long moment arm from the canards
How many games do you have on 14.0-13.7 to say this?
Alternatively you take part in a lot of 1v1 gunfights when you join 1v1 guns only tournaments.
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Good point, but am I seeing 120,000+ battles!! Lmao well done
The cope wall is real. OP said GUNS ONLY.
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Does the BI or P-59A also count XD?