J10a vs EuroFighter vs F16c vs Rafale vs Su33 vs J11a vs F15c F16a Etc
Eurofighter
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Eurofighter by a long mile…
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However, Rafale has a better gun and close range missile.
No duel ever resorts to just guns
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j10
ariete
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Topic says guns only, a department currently ruled by the Eurofighter, and followed by J-10, Rafale, Gripen and Mirage in that order
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Ok and in practical game play this is irrelevant which is the point.
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clueless
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Typhoon at the moment maybe. Rafale has the better gun. But Rafale is getting buffs so will probably be that soon
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Are you allergic to dogfighting or something, there is a whole community dedicated to it on war thunder.
Gun only fights have been a staple in this game since it’s inception and an aircrafts individual dogfight performance is in no way ‘irrelevant’
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most people are unskillbased and rely totally on missiles and cant get gun kills
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Very true
hence why i play 8.0 to 11.0 as its gun on gun
If the Harriers were modeled even remotely correctly they would be the best dogfighting planes at 9.7.
Even the 12.0 ones would be extremely strong.
The only way a fighter would even be able to beat it is by remaining supersonic but the harrier would likely outlast that aircraft due to its superior combat endurance times and the opposition fighter needing reheat to maintain high energy states.
The Harrier would have an advantage in the low speed low altitude range. Even against the EFT in a specific but small window.
This is only if the Harrier was modeled correctly ofc it still needs a buff in STR ITR, time to speed, time to climb and max speed, also VIFF has no practical modeling in game where as IRL it can generate Achievable AOA in the effect of 45 degrees up to Mach .4 or so.
As it stands the 9.7 Harriers are missing about 2G in ITR and STR and VIFF is not modeled in war thunder. Therefore they are actually terrible as a gunfighter and should be avoided.
If they get fixed they would slap anything dumb enough to go below 15,000 feet at less than .7 Mach.
Euro fighter for 4th gens/top tier.
J-7E for 3rd gens/earlier supersonic planes.
Mig-19 for 2nd gens/earliest supersonic planes.
Ariete for fully subsonic jets.
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why does the eurofighter turn so well ??
Canards+delta wing and the powerful engines prevent too much energy loss from happening.
but shouldnt the j10a beat it since it has canards delta wiing and thrust vectoring nozzles