I quite new to the forums and i was wondering what russian bias actually is? Im fairly new to the game (lvl41) and i play russia but it feels like russian tanks are like worse than a lot of counterparts from other nations (please correct me if im wrong about it) cuz everytime i spawn in a tank and find a spot to play i almost always get touched by some spaa or some light tank. Then i go to the forums and see people talking about russian bias and i started wondering if im just doing something wrong?
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Some Russian tanks are… questionably balanced, mainly at or near top tier
Ah okay, if its in the way i think it is it explains it
Doesn’t exist, don’t fall for it. It was originally a joke but devolved into a conspiracy theory that many people seem to believe. Take it from someone who’s grinded top tier in all 10 nations, it doesn’t exist.
People truly believe russian tanks are OP, they really aren’t, I think the best nation all around is Germany but people believe Russia is WAY better, these players are usually people who’ve never played Russia, the only vehicle that I can understand is the BMPT (even though it’s a one shot for my DM33), other than that russian tanks are well balanced and some are slightly worse
But if it doesnt exist why do people argue so much about it, it cant really be a joke that got out of hand, right?
Its mostly the “grass is greener on the other side”
An inexperienced player values armor a lot, thinking that Russian tanks must be really good because they have good armor, when in reality, it is the opposite. They trade far too much for their armor to make it a worthwhile trade.
WT players also dont want balance, they just want to have their nation be the best, so when theirs isn’t, they cry. Russian players do this as well.
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Oh, I bet this thread goes well.
Gaijin is (or was I think they are headquarter elsewhere now) a Russian company with a Russian head Dev. So Russian bias is what players come up with when ever they thing balance favors Russian vehicles, some times it’s justified (such as the BMPT and Kh-38MTs) other times it’s questionable such as the myth that Russian fuel tanks don’t explode.
There are also those who conveniently ignore when NATO stuff was blatantly overpowered, such as how Russia got F&F ATGMs a year after NATO (excluding the KAB-500 that couldn’t track lock so that doesn’t really count) or how the L2A6 was so OP EVERY nation needed to have new ammo and new MBTs added to compete with it. Or the PUMA that had all the same issues that the BMPT did.
probably a bunch of reasons, for one, those of us in western nations are constantly bombarded with propaganda about how great out equipment is, so seeing it implemented without the western bias make us think it’s intentional nerfing.
And saying that Russian devs are more likely to believe Russian sources is not unreasonable, I think most people will trust their country over other countries.
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There’s also an incredible amount of cherry-picking when it comes to their arguments.
They’ll point out LMUR, but conveniently ignore AH-64E or Z-10ME which are just as OP.
They’ll point out KH-38MTs, but ignore other BRs where NATO dominates CAS.
They’ll point out the Yak-9K, but ignore the entirety of US WW2 CAS, and similar vehicles like the JP 30mm APHE and 50mm 262.
BMPT is a hot topic right now, yet T58 which has even better stats than it is ignored.
Etc etc. I’m sure @Necrons31467 has about a billion examples he can bring out.
Now i’m not saying 1 OP vehicle justifies another, but this is how Gaijin makes money. Implement something OP to get people to buy it or a premium to grind it, and then introduce another OP vehicle in another nation to get them to do the same thing, and the cycle repeats.
Some people just tend to think that anything made in ussr sucks hence why if they see smth soviet perform good in wt they start screaming that its overperforming and its because of bias / because devs are russians / because kremlin support etc.
Sure there are some cases when soviet equipment has no analogs and is unbalanced like bmpt, kh38, kh29. But mostly its “era is overperforming”, “armor is overperforming” and other bs.
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So people that complain about this have either never played russia or just want thier nation to be superior and cant deal with another one being better
Precisely.
Posting the link to the current “main” Russian Bias thread for if/when this thread gets locked for being a “duplicate” 😉
The main reason why i think people argue about it because of certain actions by gaijin. I will list few of them here
- Selective realism. Recently few russian tanks got ther reload changed to 6 seconds due to realism however tanks like M1128 did not get their realistic reload because of “balance” reason
- Addition of vehicle that outclass vehicle from other nation. A good example is pantsir. It was added years before any other nation got equivalent or better Spaa system for top tier
- Refusing good source for nato equipment or just nevwr fixing them. Now before i am eaten alive for this point, i agree that even russian equipment have bug reports that have not been fixed for a long time but still in comparison to nato vehicle these bug reports are fixed quickly
These are few reasons why one could believe in russian bias. However Tbh it does not exist. People claim russian tanks are op but they are not.
Also US dominated with addition of tomcat before other nations got equal and France has been dominanting with Rafale, but this just does not mean Bias for these two nations exists. Its just that gaijin does not know whats the right time to introduce vehicle and how to balance vehicle properly.
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Thats just dumb, i get it if its something really OP thay just ruins the game for others but if its not that then people should just play the game and not argue about something that apparently doesnt even exist
Its in human nature to complain when they don’t get their way. Best advice I can give you is to just ignore the forums and reddit, play how and what you want, and if you don’t enjoy the game, don’t force yourself to play it.
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I would never force myself to play it, its a fun game (if you look past things like ghost shells) but it gets annoying sometimes by people that are in some spot 12km from my position and kill me (i usually stop playing for a few hours if that happens)
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I belive that Russian Bias is a big bug.
Those would be the people that disable my T-72 then despite my side and LFP being exposed proceed to shoot my angled UFP 6 times while I fully repair.
To be fair with the auto loader module that usually a 46 second reload :p But they realy shoud just go realistic reload speed for auto loaders and adjust BRs, manual loading is different as it’s never going to be consistent anyway.
I suspect they may have not wanted to add more SPAAs like that as it exceeded their performance expectations and didn’t want to kill CAS, so they held off until there was better CAS.
this is 100% an issue. but not exclusive to NATO both China and Japan are non-NATO and have massive issues with it. (although I’m guessing you are using NATO as a catch all for “not Russia”)
people tend to see what they are looking for. I have also noticed over the years I have been playing Gaijin tends to alternate which nation is the most powerful, to try to get people to buy premiums and grind a new tree for the new OP thing, it was especially noticeable in air battles.
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There’s no Russian bias, simply the Russian community is big so they make their premiums broken to make a crap load of cash
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