What can save American top tier air?

definetly not, unless they gimp the meteor the aim120d3 is not a meteor competitor.

They’re not equivalents though, far from it.

Wasn’t 5th gen planned for this year, or am I delusional?

Right, so if each missile’s iteration is one year apart then why would other more advanced missiles come next year when that’s more likely the aim-120d-3?

Because of this

I thought if they were to add 5th gen such as F-35 this year then they would have given EFT and other jets their ARH missiles like Meteor.
It seems i am wrong with the addition of 5th gen this year

They said don’t expect it before the second half of this year

So any time between now (obviously not) and winter update

Realistically I’d wager March 2027

If you also factor in the D3s likely being on the F22. Then that offsets the advantage.

Though US mains will probably claim that F22 with D3s Vs Typhoons with C5s is balanced

5th gen and modern fox 3s dont need to come together. especially cause things like f-22, f-35 and su57 only carry missiles currently ingame, until we know things like r-77m and aim260 are officially in service thats that, the only country currently carrying a missile comparable is china with the pl15 on the j20. hell we got the first picture of aim260 a few days ago, r-77m has seen some sparse use and we see occasional pictures here and there.

Now that Macron spokesman has posted the pattern, I also think 2027 would be the year

There’s a disconnect to me between the two statements. It could still mean next year and would satisfy the first statement.

If D3 is not equal to meteor then meteor is not equal to 260. You can’t have it both ways

iirc D-3 is ~200 km max range so technically they’re equal, just matters how long it takes to get there for the AMRAAM :P

Yep, within the context of WT, with largely sub 50km shots. They are equal enough

that is 100% dependent on how usefull stealth is, cause if it isnt a factor then yeah its pretty balanced, f-22 has better flight perfomance, but it has a much worse radar and less missiles, it will be better, but i dont see how that is particularly unfair? the meta shifts that is how the game works, and i doubt the f-22 will be the best aircraft in the game when its added.

it was developed to counter Su-27 & MiG-29

Either way, not that long of a wait. A handful of updates to go.

Yeah I’m not firing Meteor under 50 km 🤣 Everybody gets one the moment I get to Mach 1.5

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Well. If F-15 needs a missile advantage and missile quantity advantage to compete with the Typhoon having a better FM… Then surely the Typhoon needs a missile advantage and quantity advantage to compete with the F-22’s FM advantage.

Just feels like double standards.

Especially as I dont know if double rack Meteors would be possible either. So that could mean a 2+6 fit with Meteors, which if im not mistaken, isnt even a missile quantity advantage over the F-22

Yes

AIR-2 Genie

:3

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90% sure it’s not. Too heavy

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Thats equal. F-22 can carry 6 AMRAAMS and 2 9X