What can save American top tier air?

i see your point lol, im still just salty that i have to use The F-15C FM when i like the F-15E way more

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ain’t the F-15E heavier?

its way faster actually much better for BVR, fits the C-5 may better

it may have better engines (thrust wise) but it’s because the F-15E was made to be “Multi Role”, so in order to carry more fuel and bombs. (and then got heavier from that part)

i can understand it’s better for AA configurations though.

i just checked:
F-15E got PW-229 (so 210.6kN thrust AB total) but it’s baseweight is 15.33 tons
F-15C GE got PW-220 (so 172.6kN thrust AB total) but it’s baseweight is 13.59 tons

Well neither plane is gonna win a dogfight against the meta jets, But the F-15E can at least maintain a niche as a bvr monster like the Eurofighter unlike the F-15C that’s just kinda good at nothing, i honestly think if they had added an AESA F-15E with 12 missiles we would not be having this conversation rn

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Trust me i use both jets the F-15E is a lot faster

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it’s due to TWR’s being different:

F-15E got 1.374 (Thrust / Base weight)
F-15C GE got 1.270 (Thrust / Base weight)

base weight is without fuel/weapons (which could be the quite the same on both aircrafts)

in comparison Su-30SM2 got 19.01tons base weight but 275.6kN AB thrust, so TWR is 1.44976
(TWR will drastically reduce on the Su-30SM2 with weapons as there is more heavy missiles)

Yah i know i wasnt saying the F-15E was slower just pointing out why i wanted an AESA F-15E instead of the C

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That’s a massive over simplification

Make them turn more for the WVR and america would be saved.

Even the big maps are too small would need a map 2x-3x the size of the big ones we already have

Massively technically would be like adding awacs one person notches the other helps guide the the missile in witch works aim-120 and aim-54

Making the AIM-120 C5 correctly would do it…

5th Gen will just be F22vsF35 and that will bo so damn boring i cant see many liking the lack of airframe diversity

How about the NCADE’s missile supposedly it’s a aim120 with aim9x seeker or something like that

Not really. It woulf be F-22 VS F-35 VS SU-57 and Chinese 5th gens

Of course it is, and that’s good enough for War Thunder. That’s why the F-117 is DoA for War Thunder, because its operating within detection ranges at ALL times. We need bigger maps.

you mean the J35? a F35 clone with two engines instead of one?

They do have a few stealth aircraft

Hopefully we’ll also get prototype stuff like that one new turkish stealth fighter or whatever comes out of the new Israeli stealth program

That and J-20

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oh yea the bullpup F22