The main factor that punishes the F-15E vs the rafale will be fuel weight, the rafale is more efficient and doesnt need as much relative fuel load as the F-15E for any given match
You’d have to take a very narrow definition, like 12,000m, Mach 1.5-Mach 2.0, in order to find an example where the Rafale performs best, but at that point it is cherrypicking when the original context said that the Rafale is the fastest jet (overall) compared to the F-15E and Eurofighter.
I showed earlier at 12km it preforms better past ~1.25
and at that altitude if you are bellow that you are pretty much falling out of the air
and its not even close once you are past that
Yes again, you had to find a very specific example, none of it is realistic in-game. No one is spawning in at 12km alt and mach 1.25+. The topic again is what is the fastest jet in the game at top tier, that goes to the F-15E/Eurofighter not the Rafale.
yes
people arent spawning there, they are climbing to that altitude going over 1.25, all three climb fastest ~1.5 or higher at that altitude
so all of them climb to that height (btw eft was climbing the slowest at around 1.5 or maybe a bit less)
then they level off (because you get massive diminishing returns climbing past around there) and rafale accelerates much faster than the other two, and reaches almost 2 by the time they are still 1.6-1.7 at best
None of what you posted demonstrates this with the climbing part included.
Speaking of realistic in-game examples, the rafale will be the faster usually just because of the worse energy retention punishing the F-15E for any small flight adjustments, and the extra fuel weight you need to bring to feed it for any meaningful flight time in afterburner.
The rafale needs very little fuel in comparison.
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I mean it absolutely does faster than the F15e
because it reaches 12km faster, and is already 1.8 when it gets there
Here’s a damn fix.
Why the hell is the CGE still needing to carry sparrows before it can carry damn 120Cs? Just give it 120As.
Can you post a realistic scenario where all 3 spawn in at the same time like Mach 0.9 and maybe 3km alt and then levels off and accelerates then we can see who actually wins?
I was blown away when I realised I unlocked aim7m when spading it.
Useful to farm AI I guess
can you not read this chart?
rafale reaches 12km 5 seconds faster than F15e, and does so flying M0.15 faster
If all have similar afterburner time for fuel load, the F-15E loses
Just to clarify, I repeated some things. In reference to your chart, you admitted the EFT would win, which shows again that the title for the fastest jet doesn’t go to the Rafale in any of the realistic scenarios.
yes all three spawn at 0m and M0.9
then climb to 12km
EFT takes 60s to climb and ends at M1.5
F15e takes 80s to climb and ends at M1.75
rafale takes 75s to climb and ends at M1.9
then from time to speed chart
EFT takes 180s to accelerate to M2
F15e takes 60s to accelerate to M2
rafale takes 12s to accelerate to M2
for a total time to reach 12km and M2 of
240s for EFT
140s for F15e
87s for rafale
so yeah, there is a very good argument for rafale being the fastest
no, it climbs to 12km fastest, but ends at M1.5 and has very poor acceleration at that point
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Okay that’s much more clear, then yeah the Rafale is the fastest.
This is kinda insane and shows just how little drag the Rafale has at high speed / high alt.
Ive also seen some insane clips of them pulling hard turns and not dropping much speed at all
@Macron-Spokesman thats another thing with speed, you need to be able to maintain it while not dying
nice comparison
I already replied to him.
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