No one has posted any evidence that it has a better high mach climb than the Eurofighter or F-15E. I believe the Rafale’s high speed performance is overperforming but nothing indicates it beats something like the F-15E which is still the best of climbers and fastest accelerating jet in the game.
Here’s 7km alt.
The rafale also loses a fraction of its speed when defending or repositioning. Typhoon can easily bleed 0.1-0.2 mach just from turning 90 degrees. Rafale doesnt. In an actual match, the result is that there is a good chance the Rafale is actually at a higher energy state, even vs something like the Typhoon and Especially F-15 that have the higher top speeds
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I don’t usually rely on statshark because the data is all over the place regarding accuracy from what I’ve seen, just today I was looking at all the Mig-29 variants turn graphs and it’s all wrong
I think statshark has been perticuarly and consistantly off with the euro-deltas more than most
But it’s better than nothing, do you actually have anything to back up your claims or other’s claims?
Don’t use those graphs, they are probably inaccurate
Unless you have proof showing that it’s inaccurate, I don’t see a reason to dismiss it.
I did some comparisons with StatShark and real WT data and it was off by a considerable margin. I don’t recall the exact topic right now. But I think it was about the flanker FM.
Also, if you have any mig29, just compare the sustained turn rate you can achieve in-game to what statshark tells you it does. It’s off by 2deg/s or more across the board, which is a lot
Thanks, how did it compare to the Eurofighter in the same test?
iirc it was slightly worse than eft
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In every scenario I’ve seen, it always loses to either EFT or F-15E. It was never better than both in any of the scenarios.
I mean, the high altitude acceleration it is better than both, by a lot at some points
Let’s say we conclude that statshark underestimates all flight models by 1G for a given speed, that wouldn’t change the conclusion of a lot of these charts when doing comparisons to see which one is better in certain scenarios. It wouldn’t change the conclusion of the chart I posted for example, where even if statshark underperforms or overperforms both FMs by the same amount, it still doesn’t change the overall conclusion derived from the chart which is that the Eurofighter doesn’t bleed more speed than the Rafale in the same turnrate.
The main factor that punishes the F-15E vs the rafale will be fuel weight, the rafale is more efficient and doesnt need as much relative fuel load as the F-15E for any given match
You’d have to take a very narrow definition, like 12,000m, Mach 1.5-Mach 2.0, in order to find an example where the Rafale performs best, but at that point it is cherrypicking when the original context said that the Rafale is the fastest jet (overall) compared to the F-15E and Eurofighter.
I showed earlier at 12km it preforms better past ~1.25
and at that altitude if you are bellow that you are pretty much falling out of the air
and its not even close once you are past that
Yes again, you had to find a very specific example, none of it is realistic in-game. No one is spawning in at 12km alt and mach 1.25+. The topic again is what is the fastest jet in the game at top tier, that goes to the F-15E/Eurofighter not the Rafale.