What can save American top tier air?

i think he meant the red side

yeah my bad forgot that predates them

i have heard the F22s got retooled versions of there current engines might be different now

Mostly for Russia tho, because they restrict sharing military stuff to the minimum.
Like try searching for a Russian Army’s brigades, divisions etc. There’s barely any information on it, meanwhile you can search up every US or NATO unit in no time.

Not even mentioning that the west military hardware corporations share their products publicly, you can search up almost every modern missile and watch an ad about it on youtube.

That’s two different strategies
West is oversharing advanced tech to scare potential threat
East is quiet to hide vulnerability

F-22 has been getting a lot of upgrades including upgrades to its current engine

they like hiding stuff alot look at chernobyl

shame its from late 2006 no F14 on it
F14 was not a slouch

america wouldnt be in such a tough spot right now if we didnt cancel the
ST-21 super tomcat

we would actually have a good dogfighter

America IRL is not struggling with aerial power. Its just in game. Also what missile would it carry and would it have gimbal radar?

yeah cause we jumped immediatly to stealth planes

the whole thing was the F14 and F18 congress didnt like having 2 so they got bribed to pick the F18

the navy wanted to keep the F14 but congress didnt they would have got rid of the F18 if they could it would probably have AIM120Ds and AIM-9X

It might be good in dogfight but it would still have AMRAAMS which is a big disadvantage to American planes right now. So it still wouldn’t help much

it would also have all the missiles the F18 has

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While upgrades kept the F-14 competitive with other teen series fighters, Cheney stated that the F-14 was 1960s technology. Despite an appeal from the Secretary of the Navy for at least 132 F-14Ds and some aggressive proposals from Grumman for a replacement,[41] Cheney planned to replace the F-14 with a fighter that was not manufactured by Grumman. According to Cheney, the F-14 was a “jobs program”, and when the F-14 was canceled, an estimated 80,000 jobs of Grumman employees, subcontractors, or support personnel were affected.[42] The Navy would end up procuring the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet as the interim strike fighter for the A-X, which had become A/F-X (Advanced Attack/Fighter) due to added fighter capabilities although A/F-X itself would be canceled in the 1993 Bottom-Up Review. Cheney’s cancellation of the F-14D was controversial and contributed heavily to Grumman’s decline and resulting acquisition by Northrop Corporation to form Northrop Grumman.[39][43]

And F-18 carries AMRAAMS and AIM-174B (Only F-18E). I don’t trust gaijin with AIM-174B either, they could mess it up just like they did with AMRAAMS

more than a match for most planes in a dogfight at toptier right now

Spoiler

ST-21 would mostly have the same shape and body as the Tomcat, and an upgraded AN/APG-71 radar. The improved General Electric F110-GE-429 engines[N 3] were to provide a supercruise speed of Mach 1.3 and featured thrust vectoring nozzles. The version would have reshaped leading-edge gloves, increased fuel capacity and modified control surfaces for improved takeoffs and lower landing approach speed. The Attack Super Tomcat 21 (AST-21) version was the last proposed Super Tomcat design and was meant to be a more attack-oriented version of the ST-21 with possibly an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar from the canceled A-12. The (A)ST-21 was to be able to be rebuilt from existing F-14 airframes.[162][163]

The last “Tomcat” variant was the ASF-14 (Advanced Strike Fighter-14), Grumman’s replacement for the NATF concept. By all accounts, it would not be even remotely related to the previous Tomcats save in appearance, incorporating the new technology and design know-how from the Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF) and Advanced Tactical Aircraft (ATA) programs. The ASF-14 would have been a new-build aircraft with considerably greater development costs; however, its projected capabilities were not that much better than that of the (A)ST-21 variants. Even Grumman was not enthusiastic about it.[162] In the end, the proposed Super Tomcat variants were considered too costly and also faced stiff political opposition from the Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney. The Navy decided to pursue the cheaper F/A-18E/F Super Hornet to fill the fighter-attack or strike fighter role.[162]

I wouldn’t be too surprised if it could to be honest. izd 177 which are the engines for export su-57 has 90 percent of the afterburning thrust of the first su-27 while still being off afterburner, and that could go over Mach 2.35.

Who has the advantage?

Then how can the rafale, eurofighter, gripen, Su-30SM, MKI, MKA, and MKM retain high degrees of controllability at speeds above mach 1.5? How did the F-15STOL/MTD retain high speed controllability? Why do all these aircraft highlight their high speed controllability due to canards?

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Its not due the canards, they’re basically useless and just increase drag (which is why su-35 doesn’t have them)

All my hopes and dream are gone now after learning F-16 is over performing alot :( .I guess i will just wait for 5th gen now

Dw most planes are

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They are?