That’s how some tests are done, its a fact that companies do perform tests on non maneuvering targets to say it has the capability to do such a long ranged kill while not stating its real NEZ directly.
Bringing the topic back onto the thread, there’s several things that can save top tier, but I will go through the issues that these fixes/additions bring (my opinions)
- Fixing the AIM-120s
There’s several reports that detail the AIM-120A/B lacking terminal maneuverability and also lacking range against non-maneuvering targets. This could make the US top tier more competitive at the top battle-rating, but it presents the developers several problems. Namely that the AIM-120s are proliferated among different aircraft throughout different tech trees.
Why does it matter that the AIM-120s are proliferated among different aircraft in different tech trees? Because buffs to missiles that have already been proliferated typically would mean those platforms need to go up in battle-ratings. For Gaijin, several AMRAAM carriers are suitably placed in a battle-rating convenient to their plans. They wish to pigeon-hole aircraft into fitting their preconceived notions of where it should fall in terms of battle-ratings.
Missiles in this game are held back by the lowest denominator.
- Adding the F-15EX
The F-15EX could be an addition where the developers finally allow for what could be a worse TWR F-15E with AESA radar as well.
This addition could finally bring an American aircraft with spherical coverage, potentially MAWS, and 16 missiles. The problem with this aircraft is that it heavily relies on Gaijin fixing AIM-120A/B (see #1) and there’s no guarantee they’ll add MAWS to it.
I dont think there is actually a single AMRAAM carrier that doesnt either need buffs for its current BR or needs buffs to move to a more appropriate BR (FA2 and F3 Late are examples of both)
The bigger issue in the context in this thread is that buffs to AMRAAM buff the competition just as much as it buffs aircraft like the F-15
- Buff AMRAAM? buffs the Typhoon
- Fix BOL? buffs the Typhoon
- Fix Aim-9M? buffs the Typhoon
and even adding new stuff simply cant be added in a vacuum. Like EW, new CMs, IIR missiles, etc etc so its not just that Gaijin artificially nerf things so they perform as desired (which goes against every tenant they preach) but that there simply isnt a single buff for the existing F-15s that doesnt directly buff the competition. Though, they all need to be done to better balance the AMRAAM carriers vs non-AMRAAM carriers.
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Isn’t that last part what is a matter of perspective? In Gaijin’s eyes, their current BR is what they may have wanted for it and intended for it, and increasing their battle-rating disrupts their intentions.
Eh… if they truly intend such radically different performance vehicles to the same BR then this entire thread is pointless and we might as well just wait for the death of the game. Like there is no way the FA2 and F3 Late are equal in performance currently and the Premium Su-30s are only 0.3 better.
Its just gaijin has compressed themselves into a complete and utter mess
So what you’re asserting is that the F-15C and Su-30SM2 don’t climb and gain speed similarly in the AirRB gameplay loop?
Not once was milpower used in this video. You’re problem in this discussion is misrepresenting things. Even things I let you have lol.
You contradicted yourself.
There’s no counterpoint. I was making a comment not even towards you necessarily. Do you know what the topic is here?
Okay, so #1, this is borderline schizo. Never did I have this back and forth with you…
#2 Gaijin really isn’t that great at modeling stuff man. It’s basically all an illusion. They really don’t have a clue for most things they do especially balance-wise.
Can’t believe I have to explain this to someone that apparently plays the same game I do… Players always spawn in front of you. BVR only happens at the start of the game. Players only spawn at the start of the game.
You take the substance out of my arguments and spin up your own. You don’t see any contradictions because you maliciously or accidentally break down my points, take away context or integral info, and then present it as something else? Whatever you do it’s weird man.
Your proposed changes would do little to help American top tier air. Everybody knows that the real reason amraams suck is they have the worst turn off the rail of any ARH missile nor do they have a particularly fast time to impact at close range. Your proposed changes aren’t nothing, but the most you can do is kill the single father of 5 that just came back from their 12-hour shift a little further away than before because they have no idea how to notch.
Are there any sources that would point to better close-range turn for the amraam?
I think the best sources Flame/Gunjob have for it actually show the current modeling for it off the rails is actually probably right.
But there is likely issues with the overall AoA of the missile that needs correcting but sourcing is hard.
Known reports are:
- Poor performance against maneuvering targets
- Poor performance against non-maneuvering targets
- Seeker performance
- Smokeless motor
- Incorrect lock range
- Lacking re-target option
There are other issues like the LSZ being displayed wrong too, which is actually quite major but seems to affect everyone at the moment.
Quite frankly I’m not continuing this seeing as you have devolved it into attacking me, rather than engaging with me in discussion. I hope you have good day and or night, i know i will.
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Could copy and paste the same message to you. Cheers.
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I did not have MAWS. At least the American variant
With all the updates F-22 has been getting wouldn’t it be doing the same?
the early ones did have MAWS shortly, and the MAWS bumps are still there
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But they removed it later. I doubt it gaijin will give it
could just get maws based off compatibility anyway
The point was the F22 using it’s radar to locate the typhoon. Pinging the typhoons RWR and then display the exact position of the F22 in the HMD
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surely f-22 also has this ability with scorpion? same hmd as rafale
I don’t know.
But the point is the F22 is stealth and apparently totally and completely invisible meanwhile the Typhoon is not
If i am not mistaken even JHMCS II have this feature
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yeah it does but f-22 doesnt use jhmcs 2 it uses scorpion
(from scorpion ad so its not actual symbology but point is there)
But it won’t be able to track it right? It would just reveal its position. A good F-22 pilot can turn on his radar fire and the turn it off. With plane to plane data link which i assume would be added before 5th gen, missile launched by F-22 can be directed by other plane