It would be even higher with AMK.
But thats the point though, Typhoon and Gripen have been the ones shouldering that nerf more than most.
If we are operating on an assumption the F-22 has to be perfectly modeled, then im looking forward to full strenght BOL, TRDs, Britecloud, etc for the Typhoon.
No, but then neither is HMD or Aim-120Ds for the F-22
and if we are going with CAPTOR -M Typhoon vs F-22, then there would obviously be a far higher BR gap
I love you buddy but sadly no less than half what it does right now
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AMK increases AOA, sure, every aircraft in-game is overperforming in that regard bar a few, but a flat increase is a flat increase, regardless of what the start point is. AMK wouldnt decrease the Typhoons AoA
It shouldn’t even be able to exceed 25 degrees AOA without it
Yeah,but the same applies to pretty much every top tier aircraft at the moment, so its not even a Typhoon only problem
F-16 - Rafale - grippy - f-18
Those are the only ones I can think of
Su-30s probably too at the moment, they can just about out pull a Typhoon
They can do that irl unfortunately
However the bleed rate should be about double what it is in game
And post stall maneuvers should be very risky as loss of control is likely
That’s not how it works. You can’t just double dip on overperforming AoA.
Precisely. The Job the F-22 is going to be doing doesn’t rely on HMD or D3s. This is where the gap widens.
Again, I’m not the one saying it. Go read/watch interview from people who flew these damn planes. As said, one example being CW Lemoine who flew both F-18 and F-16 extensively during his career. He’s quite clear on how the F-18 thrives at low speed and win it against the F-16 there.
Here’s one for example:
I never said it was bad at low speed lol but it’s not very good if you know what your doing.
Jon Parker a tornado, buccaneer, and sea harrier pilot said it just doesn’t have the thrust to dig itself out of the holes it puts itself in.
Why not?
We have no control over the FM and as it stands, the Typhoon is underperforming in ITR & STR under most conditions.
Okay, so add the 5th gens to their own BR where Gen 4s cant see them. They can then spend the entire match completely blind gunfighting other Gen 5s
It suffers from the same thing as the harrier 1 it requires far to much AOA to achieve the stated G. Meaning there is less lift than irl
Winning against the F-16 and MiG-29 is ‘pretty good’ lol. These are some of the nastiest knife fighters around.
With that said, when people in the F-18 tells you the fight is one-sided against the F-22 even at speed regime where the F-18 thrives, that should tell you a lot about what the F-22 can do.
That same low speed regime where a rafale spanked it good
Which goes back exactly to what I was saying lmfaooo.
The Rafale scored one kill against the F-22 during that training, most likely against a new F-22 pilot or one that didn’t have a good day. This happens all the time in training and you could probably put thousands upon thousands of simulated F-22 kills in the pilot ready rooms. That doesn’t mean the F-22 is inferior in the slightlest and pilots will tell you exactly that.
Point being, the fight is one-sided with two competent pilots in good shape behind the stick.
If it were to come to WT right now it would be functionally identical to that of the GE. Maybe some higher range, as if that matters.
Thus being strictly worse than that of EF’s in all metrics (let alone the su-35 Jr.). And its not getting any better as 4.5gens are continued to be added.
Sorry for late response. I love Mover and Gonky.
Because if it already hits the AMK AoA and above, that’s already enough. It’s already fulfilling that goal.
We both know that won’t happen.
Im always kinda confused by this attitude
US Aircraft beaten by a non-US aircraft = Inexperienced pilot or pilot having a bad day
US aircraft beats non-US aircraft = US aircraft significantly superior
This happens all the time when you mention a US aircraft being beaten in training by a non-US aircraft. Like the FRS1 beating the F-15A
Why is there always a need to dismiss the potential performance of non-US aircraft and just accept that US aircraft/vehicles/equipment/companies/etc are not always superior in every situation, no matter what
Even mentioning this to a US main or any aviation enthusiast who is American is like high treason.