It lost is that what your saying lol
No, because you’re still ignoring the capability progression part
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In war thunder that would be true until they add system like AWACS
😁 Hello
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6-1 was the score. Raptor won 6 times against rafale
So you consider F-15E vs Tornado F3 and F4F ICE balanced?
There’s a thing called battle-rating system, we have it and those could be used for those scenarios.
Where did you hear that lol. In the film that was released it was a brief guns range dogfight from the perspective of the Rafale
In what way is fulcrum modeled poorly?
So why does that not apply to the Eurodeltas?
Why should they have been restricted from the game, but their coutnerparts not?
Lacking in sustained turn performance quite a bit at low speed where it’s very good irl.
Considering the intelligence of the average American main yes.
Tornado F-3 can beat the US main F-15E lmao
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There is no counterparts to the RAF/EFT first and foremost.
And yes, the F-15E should also not have been added before the Hornet Cs for example.
Now is it modeled poorly or is it modeled that way because that’s what developers sincerely believe it should be modeled as? Because now you’re getting into difference of opinions whereas the EFT/Rafale are actually not modeled correctly.
Its publicly available and happened in 2009 red flag exercise. The story behind the releasing of score was American lied about the score being 6-0. That is when French revealed the hud footage
They are not and by far overperform in post stall and nose authority but that is really it.
The MiG-29 underperforms in the classic sense that it simply doesn’t turn as well as it should lol.
If you really want to get into this the F-16 is currently one of the most overperforming jets in the game in turns of sustained turn rates and nose authority.
But if the Americans lied about not losing, then why is it not lying about the 6 times it won?
Tornado F3 added before F-14A
Gripen A added alongside the F-16
F-15C not added until a year+ later
if we are being totally and strictly fair then
Fox-3 update should have only seen the F-16C and AV-8B+ get AMRAAM, No F-15C (USSR equivalent too, like the Mig-29, but no Su-27SM) that would have been reasonably fair against Tornado F3 and F4F ICE
F-18 added to all nations, boring as hell, but balanced
But that doesnt change the fact that the moment the F-15C MSIP II gets added, whenever that is, Typhoon and Rafale must follow it shortly afterwards. Those ARE the counterparts to the F-15.
Are we forgetting how much the F-15 dominated for thsoe 6 months?
F-15E with those upgraded engines? Im surprised the Typhoon wasnt in the same update
I get it, there is an expectation that the US must always be the meta nation, but that simply isnt the case
Higher wing loading than the su-57 while having similar thrust to weight, and su-57 with its new engines have better thrust to weight. I doubt f22 gonna beating su-57 in df. Also it’s almost 20 tons empty (f22)
That’s not even a guns only dogfight situations bro
You would expect the super cruising stealth plane to beat rafales bvr.