Because we’re not even at a point where 4th gen sensor fusion is supposed to come into the game. Rafale and EFT weren’t even supposed to get realistically added until after the Su-35 and F-15EX.
I think they are referring to AIM-9X block II+ as block 3 in this document since block 3 is written inside brackets beside block II+
Why?
US mains spent ages saying they should be added after the F-15C MSIP II, then F-15E, then F-18E and now F-15EX?
If you delete the Typhoon and Rafale and I assume also the Gripen E. What does 50% of nations have that come even close to the F-15 or Su-30s?
Or does that not matter because they are only minor nations?
This is quite ironic but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Along with it’s stealth properties already making is hard to track it, assuming at least 116 CMs (yes I counted) that seems to be enough. Not sure if those are large or medium sized flares though.
Nobody serious argues 1 or 2.
3 is a per-pilot basis
4 and 5 has way to many factors relying on Gaijin modeling things right for there to be a definitive answer.
6 is cope. It will have HMD as it does in real life.
7 is again subjective.
8 guns only the F-22 is not losing to any other plane assuming equal skill. I don’t know what to tell you man.
Also the US main stuff is just kinda cringe… Like I’m not here advocating for the F-22 because of nationality, it’s just because it has the stats to back it up and trying to downplay that seems foolish.
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Nothing, and that’s how it should have been since it’s supposed to be a technological progression, and EFT/Rafale aren’t supposed to come before the F-18s, or the slew of aircraft you’ve mentioned.
Based upon an above source ,likely small/standard as the above source states 40 flares and 20 chaff likely large. If the pattern is fairly standard for these kinds of CM launchers then it can probably double stack smaller CMs so 60 large or 120 standard or something
Multiple people seem to be constantly.
Then they can buff the Typhoon up to IRL performance and give it AMK
At the same time, there is an attitude from certain players that “made in america” = “always the best by a significant margin” and yet if you actually take away the stealth on aircraft like the F-22 and F-35 they are actually kinda mediocre.
So you consider that fair?
Then neither should the F-15s and Su-30s.
Though god knows what Germany was meant to do with only F4F ICE
This is debatable, there is no data on its actual performance all we have is its weight and it is a CHUNKY boy.
And comparable in size to the F-15 there is a non zero chance it will rely on thrust to be any good at ACM and will have high wing loading comparative to fighters in its class, it’s not a harrier and therefore has no way to offset its high wing loading.
Maybe F-35 but not F-22
We do have one data about the dogfight between rafale and F-22
Well, it kinda is.
Very limited missile count
out dated radar these days
small CM count
next to no multirole capability
no IRST (yet)
Only thing really going for it is the TVC
Sort of that doesn’t tell you anything though except that the Rafale is quite good at close in fights irl.
Yes since progression in capabilities is the most logical step even if it means some countries would have multiple top tiers before another one would have its chance to shine. It does not make sense in any world for the raf/eft to come before F-2, F-18s, F-15s, Su-30s, Su-27s.
And as for the Germans, they were to either get Swiss F-18s or just play the F-4F ICE at an appropriate BR, nothing else to it.
Well, that is just stupid, if there was no Rafale, Typhoon or Gripen E, then there should be no F-15 or Su-30 either. Simple. The Moment they added the F-15C, the Eurodeltas were innevitable
So maybe there should be no F-22 or Su-57 until we get Tempest then?
How is it out dated in any way?
It also tells about how F-22 performs in dogfight
I only realized now you changed name lmfao
Its an AESA sure, but its not gimballed, thats a major advantage these days
This argument is a bit tricky because there are still a lot of planes limited by their poor modeling and missing systems.
The fulcrum could be a good top tier jet (pre euro canards) but isn’t bc it’s modeled poorly.
Shar FA.2 another example
Later variant Mirage jets
The list goes on
But gaijin has not showed interest in correcting the same few meta platforms.
Huh? That doesn’t make sense. F-15s and Su-27s logically came after F-16s, Tornados, Mirage, MiG-29 came. They were the logical next step. Later F-15s, Su-30SM, F-2A, Hornet, and Super Hornets were the logical next steps, not RAF/EFT