Notice how you went “F-35 dropped XXX bombs on them therefore its vital” to “well it just did the escorting and hanging around passively and such but whatever its still vital”.
If thats not coping out of pure yet helpless despair - one would wonder what even is.
when the F117 was shot down was one in a million shot due to all the objects on the radar screen such as birds and stuff any radar can see a stealth plane not every radar can track one as it would easily switch lock its like trying to lock a plane low alt without PD
other planes could have done what the F35 did to be fair just israel doesnt have them like EA-18G growler
200 messages in 2 hours god damn someone give me a tldr
oh really ? holy sheet
saying that f35 does the job then proving that they didnt do it.
you can still make your own dreammy statemante, i would not judge capability of a air defense based on something so little.
even so, how do we know that both s300 destroyed are not the lastest variant ? how do we know maybe its a s300 from the 90s and not the modern one ?
i can say the same thing about patriot system who getting destryed everyone 2 weeks or so. himars.
2 destroyed in 1 week.
would that mean the equipment is weak ? nope
is it utilized in a good way how its suppose so ? no
so yeah i still stand with my statement, f35 is not a god and what it can do, other can do it
Read my posts, here’s what I said:
“Israeli pilots dropped 3709 bombs on 2879 Iranian targets in 12 days, with F-35s being credited as a central role in target identification, air defense suppression, and strike coordination.”
Now you tell me where I wrote the F-35 dropped all the bombs cause I sure as hell can’t see it.
What I said is confirmed by the detailed report of the operation. If you have a problem with that, take it up to the IDF cause they’re the one originally saying that, I’m just repeating what they said.
It’s written black on white that the operation wouldn’t have been possible without the F-35 and that no strike aircraft had permission to enter Iranian Airspace without F-35s to cover them. If that’s just ‘hanging around passively’ to you, then you’re hopeless.
Are you sure that youre correct on that? Because the only source floating here so far with a 59km detection range (or recognizing range in the article) is the one from 2011 from koreatimes with an EADS radar dude naming that number for the ECRS Mk0
And usually the hard bit is finding the target not tracking them.
Not really, what enabled the operation as it was is the insane mix of sensor fusion and stealth the F-35s brings to the table. The Growler is a great ECM plane but it can’t command the battlespace and relay targets like the F-35 can.
The F-35 gives you a mini AWACS, Growler, and CAS plane all in one.
Might have been, but im not sure. Anyway. If the Gen 5s have anything less than a 40-60km detection range in-game, I dont think they should be added because they will be impossible to balance
you didnt say all but you clearly said that the f35 did most of the job.
If I spot the target for you, guide you to the target, protect you from danger, and the only thing you’re essentially doing is being a bomb truck for me, then yes, I’m doing most of the job.
How is that so hard to understand?
PS: This is Target ID and Strike Coordination.
what danger ? there was no plane in the air and all sam has been destroyed by drone.
spot the target like radar signal ? guide the target ? f16 and f15 can guide by themself.
SAMs were also destroyed by airstrikes. Furthermore, SAMs can disperse and hide near critical infrastructures, creating localized threats.
It can be radar signal yes, the F-35 has an advanced RWR with geolocation. If it’s pinged by a radar, the calculated location of the radar appears on the tactical map inside the plane, not only on the RWR screen like most other planes in service right now. From there, it can use its stealth to approach closer than other planes could and advanced sensors to find the target for a strike.
It can then guide the bomb truck plane to a safe release spot, and take over the missile fired by the bomb truck for final guidance to target.
The only thing the bomb truck essentially did was to take off, fly to the safe coordinate given by the F-35, release weapon, go back to base. The F-35 did all the rest that allowed the mission not only to happen in the first place but to happen safely. These are all mission parameters that the F-16 and F-15 would struggle to accomplish so seamlessly.
so just like the soviet in the 80s ? but a bit more advanced.
Bro about to compare trash SPO-15 to fully digital 360° RWR with geolocation. 😭
just like i said, same concept but more modern.
Fairly certain all the Euro-deltas can do the exact same thing.
In fact, with the Striker II and maybe even the Striker I, the RWR contact (it definetly does this bit) and threat radius is displayed in the HMD for the pilot using AR.
https://www.eurofighter.com/news/outpacing-the-threat
Like I get it, F-35 has a few neat tricks, but its not just the F-35.
Soviet rwrs don’t have geo location just signal strength
of course you cant have exact position but signal strength and the direction of detection can tell you where is the radar is, not saying by 5 meter or less.