Maybe, but I still think the best way to achieve balance is just to make the stealth an advantage sure, but not an overwhelming advantage, So if AESAs could detect it at like 60km, it would be fine
Ehh, let stealth be realistic and let the cards fall where they are. Unrealistically nerfed stealth takes away the sensor fusion advantage of late 4th gens.
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The issue with the current ARB is that all the benefits such as stealth wont matter all that much, as missiles launched beyond like 5-10 km are fairly easy to defeat, and at that range stealth is likely not to work anymore. Additionally, Aim120’s are likely to stay inferior to MICA or R77 in HOB scenarios, leveling the playing field a bit. In my opinion, although they will be formidable in bvr, the limited missile count will somewhat mitigate that advantage, and in WVR, there is no major advantage in flight performance compared to other 4.5th or 5th gen planes. So far from invincible, but still strong.
Which isnt modeled.
So they already artificially nerf 4th Gen sensor fusion
They already artificially nerf BOL
They already artificially nerf missiles
IR signatures are a total mess
Im not sure why stealth should be treated differently. Especially given RCS signatures aren’t modeled on most things currently anyway
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AMRAAM being a blind fish lol
Stealth won’t be treated differently. It would still be messed up.
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F22 can Carry either 74 large caliber or 144 normal caliber countermeasures, coupling with stealth and reduced ir signature F-22 can easily vulture around Typhoon.
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The most I’ve ever heard about was 60 not sure if standard or large. Do you have sources for that CM count on the F-22?
IR Signatures are not modeled. I dont know why there is expectation that it will be correct on the F-22. F-117 has IR reduction code and is still hotter than an Afterburning F-5
Yes, it might gain an advantage in defeating things with reduced RCS, but so should everything else though, the Typhoon has 10x the RCS signature it should have.
And again, if the F-22 is so completely able to dominate the competition, why is there an expectation it will be at teh same BR and not a full BR or more higher and completely out of sight of the Typhoons?
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60 actually
That source literally says 40 flares and 20 chaff
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Mistype lol
(Counting it gives 36 but idk if it’s doubled on the other side or not so I’ll say 60)
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Oh yeah it can carry smaller flares as well as seen by this image, basically doubling the cm count but smaller cms
48 each side so I would say 96 cms small or normal calibre
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Thats pretty standard for most modern aircraft. Typhoon can do the same I think. So its down to Gaijin what they choose for it. Probably going to be 60 large. But would be good to get the option for what CM to carry. Like TERMA pods could be standard or large CMs and being an external pod, it would be trivial to just have a loadout option for both in the meantime
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In fairness this is a matter of balance. If that sensor fusion were added before 5th gens it’d be game breaking (su27sm trying to comprehend the literal eye of sauron that is a fully capable aesafighter)
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Yeah, but at the same time, there is an expectation the F-22 will:
- Be invisible to radars except at point blank range
- Be invisible to IRST except at point blank range
- Able to defeat any threat with absolute ease
- Fire Aim-120D3s and nothing will be able to do anything about it
- Fire Aim-9XB3s and nothing will be able to do anything about it
- Have HMD
- Have the best fixed AESA in game
- Will be able to win any and all gunfight with ease
all whilst be the exact same BR as the top Gen 4.5s as if that was balanced.
Its just rediculous
You mean AIM-9X block II+?
I have defiently seen one US main state it should get B3 so far. But Im gunna laugh so hard if they only get B1s
I meant to say that AIM-9X block 3 never entered service. It was canceled IIRC and the most modern AIM-9X is AIM-9X block II+
Yep, but I have still seen someone say the F-22 should have it, which is why its so funny