What are we gonna do about the T-58

Yeah but to me the overpressure on its 2 rounds are insane. It’ll one shot Meece in the track or barrel with HESH because overpressure. And the HEAT has good pen and still kinda acts like HE with better pen in my experiences

we don’t care about the 2.8 sec of reload. we need a fix on the HESH from the others vehicules
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God forbid it ATLEAST be on par in a full downtier.

No not really. Soviet 122mm seems to 1-shot it very consistently and I’ve seen em get blown by VIDARs and PzH 2K. The only munitions that don’t always 1-shot are HEAT and APDS.

What on earth are you talking about?

This is false, I literally ammo racked the thing with HEAT-FS this week

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Oh they fixed its ammo not exploding? I guess it’s even worse than I thought.

T58 is fine, and I say that as someone who has to constantly face them. They only really troubled me when I didn’t know where to shoot them.

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Youre sure about that?200mm frontal turret armor which its never actually 200 since its a ball meaning it can go up to 400mm of armor…its extremely trollish to say the least
Its not cause it reloads fast but because it can kill stuff by shooting the tracks which shouldnt be happening IMO

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When the kh38mt is released, people keep crying about it being “fake”. And when the T-58 is released, all those voices are silenced. Hmm I wonder if there’s some sort of bias here, maybe?

Have you considered the fact the T-58 was a real prototype and the KH-38 only has a display model that was shown at a military fair?

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What are you even yapping about

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Literally nothing will happen. Keep dreaming, we already have hordes of rapid-fire, high caliber tanks in the game. Uptiering it would just make it’s armor even more irrelevant, and it’ll just be a mediocre PzH 2000.

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Comparing a heavy armored tank with a barely armored SPG its wild tho

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It is, welcome to WT I guess. It’s literally all you see at 7.7.

Uh Huh… and the fact the thing is frontally immune turret wise to even L23 APFSDS isn’t a issue?

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Russians have tested the kh38mt too, so it is as real as the T58

Have they now? Any documents about that? Declassified preferably.

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Yeah i dont know about that lol

The only thing i saw so far its just a photo of a toy missile at a show,doesnt really prove it existed

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He doesn’t have any, he made it up.

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I know that is why I asked for them to see what his dxcuses are.

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Absolutely.

Please. There are a few weird volumetric spots but you’re proposing this to be 9.0. Get real. Name a singular 9.0 that doesn’t use a 30mm or under gun that would help trouble penetrating this tank frontally at LONG range even. Its armor is “ok” at 8.3 (It’s literally just a M103 hull with a goofy turret so not really OK but I’ll give you this for the sake of the argument) and at 9.0 it becomes paper.

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