Removing 3D markers above enemy head and leaving only markers on map and mini map would make it less gamebreaking.
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I dont have to accuse anything lol. The fact that you defending Scouting is showing how much you know about the game lol. Pulling out vehicle downside and using that to justify a bad game mechanic is just pathetic lol.
Cry about it , maybe that will help you be actually decent at the game lol
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Scouting is a mechanic that also exists in WoT in a similar way. So I compared both games.
I mean I can still reply to it, I see nothing wrong with that.
If so, I never meant to accuse you of anything you didn’t say. But I think it is just a missunderstanding.
I like posts that I agree with. I think that’s completely fine. I don’t think likes are that important.
Since his views align with mine a lot, I like his posts.
I’d understand your point if I was in the role of some neutral judge or sth like that but I’m obviously biased so I will be biased liking posts.
I have issues with your misleading posts that add nothing to the discussion.
It’s you that is doing all the crying about the game.
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So i have played my first match using this (in my humble opinion dumb af) mechanic of scouting from an almost invincible drone while spading the EBRC Jaguar sitting behind a hill only popping out when something light and unaware pushed out. At no point was i in any danger of being shot at. Half the map was permanently scouted while i wasnt in any risk at all. Scouting anything that spawned trying to regain any footing in this half of the map (which was 80 % of the enemy team) My allies basically played arcade. In the end i could have probably spawned a fully loaded ruffafflo for 200 sp. 5 star mechanic, snail, really does its part to ensure good gameplay.
What. The. Fuck. Gaijin?
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Scout drones are basically legal hacks, and the scouting feature was one of the worst things ever added to the game. It has basically made big maps borderline pointless to flank on, you are scouted and constantly being watched on, most of your teammates sit passively at spawn doing nothing. Scout drones need to go, or have the scouting feature removed forever.
Red markers were already good enough to give some situational awareness.
But the real reason they added it as a feature instead of fixing an obvious exploit with the binoculars was because they couldn’t fix it.
The exploit took advantage of the system that spawns enemies if the player has a LOS of the enemy, so when you went into the drone and out, pointed your binos and pressed scout, the game would register that as a valid scout because the enemy tank is visible to the player.
So instead of revamping that system and ensuring that didn’t happen, they just said “screw it” and added it as a feature instead.
Now we have this total gamebreaking cancer of scouting as a feature in the game. Scout drones need to be removed forever or be made an SP killstreak at this point, it’s just not fun to play top tier when you are 24/7 scouted.
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All they had to do was check if there were obstacles between the player and the enemy, so if you went into the binoculars and tried to scout through terrain, it would fire a ray and check if it collided with anything on its way. But no, I bet they were too lazy to do that.
I actually like the scouting mechanics. It gives opportunities to shoot missiles at least on drones if players chose going air-defence. But red markers on the map would be enough information in my eyes.
They were enough, I also feel like they should remove the “eye” aka 3D spotting. A mark on the map is good enough. 3D spotting has been a topic of debate in Battlefield since forever, I guess it makes sense in a fast phased game like BF. But WT is way slower and it doesn’t need it since you can process information quicker by glancing at your map.
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Y not use anything with AA missiles or radar tracking to shoot drones down?? Its pretty easy and 100% would have stopped you from doing what you did…
Gaijin reduced the RCS of drones, and they can’t be detected past 1.5 to 1.8 kilometers with some radars, so if you fly the drone in the opposite direction of the map your drone will be undetected by them. Idk if they did that, but it happens.
Scouting as a mechanic should’ve been reworked years ago. Scout drones just added fuel to the already raging fire.
Right now, higher tier light vehicles provide legit wallhack experience for themselves and can also scout the whole enemy team while still being in the spawn. Shame how they did this just because they couldn’t fix a bug with scouting and at the same time punish filthy exploiters.
That said, scout markers on the map should last for much less, as now flanking as a playstyle is seriously hampered due to this nonsense mechanic.
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absolutely.
But I’m not sure if they really added the active scouting from drones because they couldnt fix that “exploit”? I mean, not a lot of people used it like that and it was at least somewhat unreliable, especially on moving vehicles. Once you missed your scouting on the squad marker you were on a long cooldown. Now its 100% reliable every 30 (or something) seconds and in between you can just use the other marker without cooldown (the non active scout “enemy at this position” or whatever). Could be they just wanted to fk over gameplay a bit more?
I mean scout drones used by a well coordinated 4 man premade squad already give these players an insane advantage (one sitting in back scouting for the rest of the 3, magically lowering his sp cost for cas without any risk of losing sp himself, while his squadmates play arcade mode, hell yeah snail) even without the active scouting you could get into cas pretty easily and reliably when playing a bit more safe and not just throwing yourself at enemies hoping for 2 kills. Especially if you always know where everyone on your side of the map is.
I think ill just never understand why in addition to the universal roles light tanks can already be used in (anti drone, anti air for closer tagets, supporting mbts, scouting (not sure what the radio operators in some heavy tanks are doing but whatever) this also needs to be rewarded with lowering the sp of spawning cas in succesful matches down to something like 200 sp??? is it necessary that just throwing yourself right into the enemy team and maybe getting a kill and an assist in a light tank and then being able to spawn fully loaded cas planes like 2 min into a match is actually a (somewhat) viable “strategy”?
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It’s a clear exploit, you don’t need quotation marks.
I believe they added this to give people a legal way to scout enemies without LoS to their own tank as they were already able to do just that. They increased the cooldown as even they figured out it could be really OP. To me this looks like a band aid fix to the bug as scout drones existed for a long, long while before this thing got introduced.
The sad reality of 2025 GRB as it has never been more arcade-ish than it is currently.
I’m pretty sure Gaijin understands light vehicles in higher tiers (especially top) are clearly inferior to MBTs so they had to give them something to be playable.
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This drone UAV scout mechanic is so overpowered that it is a guaranteed reason to one death leave for me.
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Imagine flanking in WT.
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I think scouting needs dead hull added into it. No score for it but it should be data added to the battle map. We did it in the real military.
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Saying no to scouting is saying no to hero shooter mechanics and acknowledging that light tanks are not inferior.
True, this is another aspect I didn’t address in my post.
However that alone wouldn’t mean that scouting itself should be removed.