We need to talk about EFV's BR being 9.3

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EFV’s only weapon is the slow-firing 30mm Bushmaster. No ATGM’s.

  • M3 Bradley is at 8.3 with a potent TOW missile
  • Marder is at 7.7/8.0 with a MILAN missile
  • The overpowered PT-76-57 is at 8.3.
  • Type 89 is at 9.0 with higher pen than the Bushmaster and a 700mm pen ATGM.

The Bagleitpanzer is at 9.3 but it actually has a potent 57mm autocannon and an I-TOW missile, so its BR makes sense.

The BMD-3 at 9.3 BR and BMD-4 family at 9.7 BR has Tandem-HEAT warhead missiles so their BR makes sense being 9.3.

Falcon is 8.3 nothing else needs to be said about this one, it’s OP. Way more capable than the EFV.

The EFV being at 9.3 makes no sense at all. For it to be balanced it needs 8.3 or 8.7 at maximum.

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M3A3 is 10.0 with a potent TOW missile.*
Standard M3 doesn’t have APFSDS rounds.

Marder doesn’t have a 30mm gun firing APFSDS rounds, the closest German vehicles are Puma at 10.3, and Vilkas at 10.7.
PT-76-57 isn’t OP at all, that’s pure Russian propaganda.
Type 89 has a worse gun, it also fires APDS instead of APFSDS. APDS can shatter more.

BMD-3 and BMD-4 don’t have APFSDS.
Falcon is SPAA, and doesn’t have APFSDS.

9.3 is correct for EFV.
Its equivalents are all 9.3 and 9.7.
CV9035, CV9030 FIN, VBCI-2, RCV/ICV P…

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This thing looks goofy as hell lol yesterday it literally turns the match into a funhouse theme

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CV9030 also at 9.3 same cannon and that wasn’t a big deal despite being terrible or the RCV with its 30mm so why is it a problem for just the EFV now?

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You are correct its garbage at its br. But its goofy as hell.

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you know exactly why

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Well of course i do lol

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Because it’s USA.

We all know that U.S equipment is supposed to be da best in da world bro

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Happy EFV owner
My opinion after 1 game
Fills a nice 9.3 gap
It’s fun
Pretty unique
Not really a game changer
It’s pretty silly
Free tonk unless you paid for it
Should you carry on grinding or buy it - i guess but it’s up to you
Looks great in the Duck pond on Flanders
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Love how you somehow (probably intentionally) didnt compare EFV to Cv9030Fin, its direct TT counterpart with the exact same gun.

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well the 9030 doesn’t float in the duck pond, well i guess neither does the EFV because it’s pretty shallow…

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Neither does Bradley, Begleit nor Marder, yet OP compared EFV with them.

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Oh…
Yeah i mean i guess there’s the size. But size shouldn’t matter i heard it’s more how you use it. I guess you could call the EFV the mid life crisis 9030.

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Point is OP compared it to Bradley, Marder etc. to portray EFV as lacking because it doesnt have ATGMs, while not comparing it to CV9030FIN, a cannon only IFV at the same BR.

Sure, EFV might float and CV not but not the point I was going for.

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oh I get it, i’m just trying to have some fun…

It is what it is, I don’t think it warrants an uptier and i don’t think it warrants a downtier the thing literally only became obtainable less than 12 hours ago and there are similar vehicles to it around it’s br bracket
Type 87 RCV
Type 89
CV9030
CV9035NL and DK
Bradleys
Begleit
etc, etc, etc

Despite it’s size and the extra “it floats” it performs no different to a lot of these vehicles be it with atgm or no atgm, so it’s just another addition to the 9.0 br light family.

i.e a no armor, moderately speedy, autocannon of which i have most of barring nations i haven’t started or have no experience with but that’s only 3.

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EFV is pretty much on par with other 9.3 IFV APFSDS slingers.
Though they are all pretty mediocre if you ask me.
If their firerate was better, they would be more viable to be honest.

Late APDS does not shatter from my experience.
APDS also does more damage than APFSDS of the same calibre.
APFSDS does penetrate better than APDS at angles, and are less likely to ricochet at high angles though.

So while 35mm 200 RPM APDS is better against IFVs and a
light armour in general, 30mm 200 RPM APFSDS is better for side armour against MBTs ( since you are more likely to penetrate).

Type 89 also has quite small first stage.

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Or maybe because the efv is 4 times the size?

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You missed the biggest benefit - HE-VT.

Either way, if you ask me to pick between EFV and BMP-3 (both 9.3) - I’m choosing BMP3 every single time.

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Begleit is 9.7 btw

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Bagel is better