No, we dont need two top tiers and two bottom tiers
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Exactly.
I could maybe see a soft split working in air (preferably in the 8.0ish region, that would be done by having an empty BR at 8.3 for example.
Ground doesn’t have such a severe jump in capability at any BR that can’t be solved by decompression. Air has it at 9.3, but there are enough vehicles in that BR range (with much more to add) that would make decompression very possible when done right.
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another consideration for air would be simply limiting the weapons a plane gets access to between ground and air, ie give the a10 its full current loadout in ground battles but artificially limit them to worse missiles (aim9J or G or something) in air
The jump between WW2 tanks at 7.7 and stabilized sabot/HEAT tanks at 8.3 is very sudden, however the jump in SPAA technology going from 1940s SPAA to 1980s SPAA is 10x more disgusting and kills entire classes of vehicles.
I really cannot imagine a single way to properly balance 1940/50 CAS-SPAA interactions without first completely cutting off 1980s SPAA from interacting with 1940/50s CAS.
The hard divide that I propose IS a form of decompression.
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Yes please, and also between ranks 4 and 5. It’s not fun to come in a battle with a rank 4 warbird only to get absolutely obliterated by a F-89 that outspeeds you, outclimbs you and outturns you all by a large margin. This really has to be fixed
Late props v.s early jets isn’t really a massive issue. There’s only a select few jets that actually cause problems.
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There was a leak about about seperating ww2 from the rest of the tree, I assume you would be able to start from cold war or current 1.0 stuff.
But knowing gaijin that would also mean it would take 300k rp to resesrch a king tiger and 80 dollar ww2 premiums since those would be rank 8 vehicles in the new system ala coastal and bluewater seperation… and the monkey paw curls.
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Well so far I’ve only had problems against the F-84 and F-89
And it can be solved by decompression.
That just makes CAS op witch really sucks.
The main issue is from the early jets to the next gen jets, like Sabres, Mig-15s, G.91s, and other similar places.
Reality didn’t have the hard divide. Why should the game have it?
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I dont remember the history channel special about korean war vets fighting in berlin with their secret time machine.
Because this is a game meant to be fun while war was at no point fun
And jet fighters barely ever fought propeller fighters, except for the Me-262 obviously
If you wanna follow that logic, F-4s have faced F-22s sometimes, yet I don’t think you’d like to be uptiered to top tier when flying an F-4
You memory does not affect history.
The game does that for me.
Oh. Did they not?
Did korean war vets fight in berlin?
Is that relevant to the question of a hard divide or is it relevant to your ego only?
I mean technically they could have, just not with a time machine. Korean war vets could have also fought in berlin, but no korean war vets were in berlin in 1945 as obviously the korean war hadn’t happened.
This is probably a nightmare for ESL lol.
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Ground has from 7.7 to 8.7
7.7 no stab, no laser, no thermal, aphe
8.7 laser rangefinder, stab, darts, thermal gen1
Reality didn’t have a BR system either. This hard divide is for gameplay purposes, just like how the BR system is for gameplay purposes.
Sure, Corsairs and Mustangs may have fought Mig-15s irl, but it simply wouldn’t be fun ingame.
Taking 1980s SPAAs out of 1940-50s BR wouldn’t make CAS op. As specified in my post, all guided A2A and A2G armaments would be rank 6, with obvious exceptions being things like the Ki-87 and possibly te HKP3C.
You’re correct, decompression is the solution, however my suggestion is a form of decompression.
no more relevant than what I was replying to
two top tiers and bottom tiers would be really crap.
move the weirdly modern things out of their respective BRs (gepard and similar from 8.3, Ratel from 6.7, most SPG artillery) significantly higher so they cant abuse ww2 tanks having no armour to a 155 HE, HEAT or handle radar lead indicating spamcanons
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