War Thunder is pay to win

Let us go and try a 1 vs 1 dogfight.

Dogfight 1: we both use bf 109 f4 with 0 crew
Dogfight 2: you have 0 crew, i fly my 109 ace
Dogfight 3: i have 0 crew, you use 109 ace.

Assuming you know how to dogfight in 1v1s, the person with the ace crew will win with ease.

I have lot of ace crews. Newer paid for them.

Edit : i use premium account. First 1_2 years if playing WT i spend some real money in the game, but after i sold my is-7 i never used my wallet.

I spent dozens of hours flying in my F4U-4.

It is still not a premium crew.

The only premium crew I have after all my hundreds of hours is my Bf 109 F-4. I’ve no idea how I got it. I got it after flying in a TSS event so maybe that.

image

My second most used planes are:
P-63A
image

P-51C

image

F4U-4

image

Ki-61

image

G.55 Sotto 0

image

Pyörre:

image

Mustang Mk Ia:

image

image

Wanna know how much difference it makes?

I have objective, measured evidence:

Rest of the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNYBR6L_gDk8gsTVuz1MSDbFLCLw-pAWr

Also notice the multiple premium planes (Ki-61, Mustang Mk Ia, Pyörre). I too have spent money on this game.

Just bomb bases.

I play air sim, and I play fighters. I play to dogfight people in air simulator battles and to support my teammates doing their objectives. Occasionally I strafe A.I ground targets.

I also play to dogfight people in TSS tournaments and custom 1 vs 1s.

Also bombing bases doesn’t give you ace in a crew.

You need to earn that RP flying JUST that plane exclusively.

Get coupons, sold them, buy GE, ace the crews.
Why not to try Aces of Thunder? No need to spade crews, oly once you pay the game, its cheaper than a premium pack in WT.

Aces of thunder is awful.

And I get GE slowly through this:


It’s still deeply stupid.

I tried to do some for-fun 1 vs 1s with a buddy and I could just casually out-turn them because I have a maxed crew and they don’t.

Where is the satisfaction in that?

Where is the fun in not knowing if the reason you won is because you can sustain 6.1G indefinitely vs actually flying better?

Tell me. Exactly. Where . The. Fun. Is.

The game is free to PLAY. Not free to WIN.
If you won the trournament, you got GE an fun, no?
Ok it’s 4th place, but srill you got GE.

generous gaijin spared the poor f2p peasant 200ge, he must be so greatful. So much love for people who have stayed over a decade here

200ge, that’s enough ge to trade for a 1 day premium time

Please respond to this part.

I am literally the person with a maxed ace bf 109 f-4. I am the one given the means. New players I encounter are given massive handicaps that makes even practicing hard for them because they literally cannot physically copy my inputs without flying in a straight line with their screen blacked out.

Crew skills are egregious and the module system is almost as bad.

Can technically argue that neither are pay to win if you’re arguing semantics but even then it is still pay to not be at a disadvantage.

ARB is probably worse than GRB for module gimping, especially at top tier. Will never change anyway as it is designed to frustrate you into spending money.

I do think crew skill difference from a level 1 crewslot ot max level needs to be smaller. as do expert and ace crew skills. I think its fine to be there, ace crew is a sign af mastery for the vehicle when not paid for but its competitive edge is a bit far extreme vs newbies

Well… yeah, as any other F2P game. Duh.