War Thunder is pay to win

Well, Gaijin sells early access to aced crews…

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“Grind it.”

If I had a premium account, that’d be 29 hours for each crew slot for each nation I’m wishing to use to its full extent and capability.

WITH PREMIUM.

29 hours to fly you 3.0-5.7 BR aircraft to its full potential.

WITH PREMIUM.

So,
German Slot 1, German Slot 2 = 58 hours
British slot 1, british slot 2 = 58 hours
USSR slot 1 = 29 hours
Italian slot 1 = 29 hours
Japanese slot 1, japanese slot 2 = 58 hours.

WITH PREMIUM.

Calculation is based on the fact that 600 score (86% max reward) and 15 minute survival gives 1800 RP per 15 minutes in the 4.0 Bf109F4, 2200 if you make it back to land (1800/0.8=2250) without premium, and simply doubling that to 3600/4400. Getting 1050 (92% max reward) score gives you 2000 per 15 minutes and 2500 if you land - 200/300 more than at 600 score.

600 score bf109:
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Getting 1950 gives you 93.5% of max reward, so that gives with A6M3…
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God I love SB rewards. I get almost double score and get 1% more RP.

What happens at 2653 score?
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1800?

Can you guess it

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So the “29/58 hours” is a very consistent calculation assuming full 15 minute survival, 86% (600 score) reward and returning to base and landing. As you can see, it’s a very generous calculation in fact since you might get shot down at 14:58 minutes alive and lose 20% of your reward.

My man thats just bad rewards in SIM not P2W nothing… Im playing Air Realistic just because I know how painfully long would grind be in SIM…when I reasearch few more nations Air and ground I wil just play SIM.

Again you rpoblem is not with P2W its just bad rewards in SIM. Thats why I dont use premiums to kill enemy players but to firstly and strictly destroy one base since I get so much more RP.

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Does not change the fact that it’s 29 hours of grind per each slot per each nation even as a paying, premium-account holding customer.

It’s 29 hours in the ideal case too.

Why use sim rewards? Because they’re consistent. You don’t have match length, skill bonus or anything else interfering and muddying the data - we know the maximum you can earn in an ideal scenario. Made assumption of 600 score rather than 1050 purely for consistency (get 1 kill and afk is easier than 2 kill and afk), but even at 1050 (maximum reward) it’s maybe 2-3 hours less (86% versus 92%)

It’s indefensible in this argument as we’re now talking about a premium account owner, so can’t go “cheapskates deserve to suffer.”

Would like to be able to use crp for bushes and camo schemes. Especially those camouflage schemes locked behind GE.

It’s ok if you’re not able to understand illustrative examples.

No, it’s really not. Look at Fortnite and their current lawsuit. All games that focus cosmetics turn into jokes.

I mean grinding in this game is ridiculously long again if you really want to preform same in USA plane thats aced then just ace that other plan, I mean I also agree having to ace evry single plane sepratly is bad. But it is what it is…we can complain about that, but to say its P2W…naaah… I can ace any plane RN get into SIM and have my ass handed to me by people not having aced crews. Its pure player SKILL if you know your crew is not aced dont fly plane same as its aced. Same as how planes suck when they are stock…

Dawg, not even close, you think gaijin is making more money than Nintendo, Bandai, Microsoft, EA, Sony, Tencent, hell, even game-stop.

They made 22 million, a majority goes to servers and development, paying employees, and office rent, that’s ignoring taxes.

You really must not know what it takes to own a business, company, or studio, do you?

I guess CS is falling apart as they’re offering cosmetics only.

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Counterstrike is different, utterly and completely, as it’s been around for almost 25 years, and has had players the entirety of its life, who grew up on it. It’s also a valve game, all hail king Gaben.

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CS not having predatory mechanics surely is a reason why the game is still here after 20+ years.

Rocket League is yet another game that saw great success while focusing on cosmetics only. Their eSports prize pools were in six digit ranges almost from the start, while Thunder CUP has the 5k prize pool.

Name one person you know who plays rocket league on a daily basis dawg.

I actually know several…

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