War Thunder is pay to win

u don’t even need GJN Coins to buy GE, u can get Golden Eagles with many methods that even console(?) players can use.

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You mean the Competition in the forum or Free GE app?
If so, yes those work also for console

as i heard, that Free GE app is a complete scam.

  1. weekly reward, u can get 200 GE iirc with a lot of luck
  2. Competition, u can chat with people, watch beautiful screenshots and win prices, all in the same package!
  3. tournaments, u can also chat with people, train daily with them and fight against people who actually want to coordinate and not just farm kills to progress.
  4. content creation, a hard method but that can be very reliable if u do very good on it, and u can win more than just GE by doing it.
  5. Wiki author program, another hard method but that can be very reliable and even funny to do since u’re basically talking about something u like (or even love, long live the Flankers! that’s my name!!!) and people can give their opinion about ur article which feels heartwarming sometimes. ;)

idk if there’s more methods, i believe there’s way more but i don’t remember which ones.

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Everything listed there works also for Console Accounts

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This may exist.

I’ve even got GE from tournaments.

I have an aced 109 F-4.

It does not change the fact that player A flying the 109 F-4 should perform as well as player B flying the 109 F-4 provided they have the same knowledge and skills.

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I have acquired the Pyörremirski.

It’s a fun plane. It’s a 109 but usually on allies/blue side in sim. I like my 109s. My 109 F-4 is my most successful plane.

In which I’m doing a maneuver that would have succeeded if I was in my 109 with 5/5G & Stamina.

Alas, my pyörre is only

The 162 skill points is from the match (flying premium Pyörre with +50% +20% + 10% boosters running):

Spoiler

I can expert it in my next game.

Did I do bad in this match? No.

Was I denied my full arsenal of maneuvers I can employ with the 109 F-4/G-6/K-4? Definitely.

And it’s not just defensive. It’s offensive too - almost blacking out from pulling OUT of attacks.

Notice how when I rolled into the attack at 0:25, I started losing control so I had to ease up my turn. In my 109s, I could have pulled through.

Then i tried to pull lead again and on 0:36 I blacked out. Now, I’d have overshot in either case but if I hadn’t blacked out I would have been able to immediately respond with a high-yoyo or a lag displacement roll. Instead I flew straight until 0:43 where a more agile plane could have punished this significantly. Thankfully, the 190 couldn’t pull in on time, allowing us to go into vertical loops which don’t require high G to survive.

Now, the Pyörre and 109 F-4 (or G-2 or G-6 or K-4) are not the same plane. Not as perfect a comparison as 109 F-4 vs 109 F-4 (Hungarian), but they’re kind of similar still.

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Holy number of Talismans

lemme guess, this is the only good game you play? play “tank force” and THEN you’ll know what P2W is

Tanki Online. LOLOLOL

It is the only game I play with flight sim as a marketed feature that has two people flying the same plane in the same manner getting wildly different results (6.2G indefinite sustain vs capped at 4.5G indefinite sustain).

4k hours here and only a few aced crews on GRB, think the Leopard L/44 being a legit one.

Type 74 redstar I got at 75 percent or whatever the lowest cost is.

F5C got one on that as well but still paid for it after it was at the 50 percent mark. chieftain 900 as well, paid for it with my GJN the other week for GE to get it.

game is totally rigged by wallet, invisible enemies (not a bug), prem vehicles 300% more accuracy, ghost bombers, pay to kill clans damage reduce by 85%, YES and more issues, game is rigged and lose players every day

If you figure out how to spawn more than 10 times in a single match without just spawning the nuke jet instead… I’d love to see that proof.

After the adition of the premiums F-18 c early, the su 30 and the Terminator we can CONFIRM that is a Pay to Win

Don’t forget that many premium versions of TT vehicles are often slightly better too.

Like the Tiger in the Italian tree has the front track armour. The A13 Mk II in the British tree gets the extra mantlet armour. There’s tons of examples.

You’re picking and choosing what suits you, I think. Do you play other games that are marketed as both sim and MMO?

I play Il2:Ground Battles. It’s not an MMO but it has multiplayer.

In it, you buy a set of planes once and then those planes behave as they should with no way for one player flying a 109 F-4 to get different outcomes to another player flying a 109 F-4.

DCS, far I understand, follows the same principles.

Now, for competitive multiplayer games that are not sims:

CS:GO(2)
Dota
League
AoE2:Definite Edition

Do you know what all the above games do?

Every player is perfectly equal within the match that occurs in terms of potential. The only distinction you experience is your own personal skill.

League and AoE2 have some pay to unlock/progress aspects - League you can unlock new champions through grinding or boosted acquisition (however: once you do they perfectly match any other person’s champion), League has rune pages (which is a convenience item that makes pre-match planning easier and makes no real difference. You can use all the runes you want with just 1 runepage or with 30 and the builds are simple enough that pages aren’t really a big QoL). AoE2:DE has exclusive premium nations in form of its DLCs.

However, whether or not you possess only the base game or all the DLCs, the nations within the base game behave exactly the same AND the DLC features (if any) get incorporated seamlessly into the base nations even if you only own the base game. Additionally, the base game nations are perfectly competitive and you’ve no pressure to buy the new DLC nations outside of “ooh, shiny!”

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I think the crew level system is rubbish, but the comparisons are really not very relevant.

The first ones you mentioned don’t have the MMO component, which obviously changes things quite a bit.

The MMO component is mainly there to make the player pay more. Well, in WT there isn’t really a persistent world, except for the hangar with the crews and their levels.

It’s a bit of an excuse, and we could do without it.

And the comparison with competitive games doesn’t make sense to me.

WT isn’t a competitive game, even though there’s an esports scene; the game and its structure aren’t designed for it at all. Simply organizing tournaments isn’t enough to make a game competitive at its core.

On top of that, games that are perfectly balanced, including the ones you mentioned, are, in my opinion, incredibly boring to play for fun. Everything is balanced, smoothed out, there’s no excitement or anything.

I much prefer Rising Storm Vietnam, where there’s no balance between the two sides, but which is a thousand times more enjoyable to play than any CS match.

Generally speaking, I find that the competitive scene only brings bad things to games. After all, it’s just a way to make money, where players are just products and “fans” are just customers to whom manufactured “stars” are sold. Great system, ultra-healthy, ultra-respectful, in short, in my opinion, it embodies all the essential values ​​(ironic, of course).

CS, I’d add, is the perfect example.

We went from a game with tons of private servers, crazy atmospheres, connections you made, servers that were pretty try-hard during the week and fun on the weekend, to a game where the only contact is insults. Everyone’s try-harding, nobody communicates anymore.

Before, you’d download your skins on FPS Banana and share them with friends; now it’s become a huge money-making scheme with all the abuses it’s caused and will continue to cause.

Gone are the days of 1.5 when I played LANs with friends, or later on Source, the zombie or surfing nights.

And the game is so balanced that since 1.2, we’re playing AK/M4 on maps that have barely changed because the slightest change is criticized by the community. Just look at how open they were in the last update, lol.

And I could cite competitive games that are pay-to-win, like Magic: The Gathering, Kards, and all card games in general. Which doesn’t make them bad games, far from it.

It’s only badly balanced. This happen more then enough in the last 12-13 Years. Maybe stop playing this BR would be a solution until it is fixed?

Tiger 2 in teh german tree is better as well.