War Thunder is Going to die in 2-4 Years

wot is a shell of its former self, the clear king here is WT.

I started with wot, switched once to WT to try it, and i immediately uninstalled WoT

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Except it’s also not going against the “Juggernaut,” as you call it.

Cause unlike WOT, WOW was actually killed by War Thunder. Due to it simply not being good.

WOWS is the other competition, which has a great gameplay system, but has been adding, well… fake vessels. With no historical documentation of existence. At all. 0 Zlich. So WT isn’t really competing simply by existing. Since it does 2 things better.

Which is Tanks and Planes.
As much as I dislike this game, this is a fact to an extent.

You know, you are right, but I bailed on that because they literally changed the controls suddenly in the first stages of the testing. They were mint, then they swapped them up, and it was just totally wrong.

Doesn’t mean problems don’t need to be addressed, fixed. I’m grateful for the recent strides Gaijin has made within the community to try and talk to the players, those previews are really cool. But we need to see more frequent roadmaps, announcements inside the game itself, so newer players can find the forums and educate themselves on new game mechanics quicker. There needs to be more emphasis than Gaijin is currently giving on trying to repair the core aspects of the game. They haven’t really “shaken things up”. Ground has remained essentially the same since launch, players have neen begging for something new for years. Yeah a new vehicle every so often is cool, everyone loves seeing their favourite war machines and feeling like a true pilot or commander or admiral in them, but genuine changes to progression and gamemodes would promote a larger playerbase. One that doesn’t happen to feed off of negativity but rather attempts to attract an audience of all kinds of players. Plus, there’s more money to be made in that. Higher retention and generally more community feedback and good PR usually means more sales…

My advice? Rather than addressing any kind of problems or complaints the players may have in a negative way, try to work within reason towards a solution or meaningful understanding. That way at the very least, both the devs and community can come together to try and create new gamemodes, create a more positive environment for the game, and overall strengthen the bond that players have towards the dev.

I’m not saying everything is going to be sunshine and rainbows, not everyone is going to get what they want. Gaijin still has to make money, but their current game model is only sustainable for so long. It can go on for years, yes. But eventually there is no new vehicles to add, no new content to create, no new players who are interested (as a lot of newer players are pushed away incredibly fast). It will eventually collapse.

And yeah, all good things come to an end, Empires forever are destined to crumble. But the question I have for Gaijin is this:
Do you want your game to go down as a legend? One started as a small project, an idea that turned into a global phenomenon, drawing fans of military vehicles from every corner of the globe? One that holds multiple Guinness World Records, and one with a devoted and loving playerbase?..
Or a game that chose profit over people, every, single, time and fell from greatness to soon.

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People were saying the game was going to Die 5 year’s in…I think War Thunder is going to out live all of us! With Escalation going live this Major…you’re going to see a HUGE spike, also the Amazing Fox 3 buffs being shown on the Dev Server…a 120D that can Pull…SAY WHAT!

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It won’t die , unless another game comes and is better , which is not difficult because the ONLY thing WT has is many vehicles.
Most people will just leave in any chance to get rid of GJ. The game can be ok, GJ is very bad company though. Way too money beggars of a company…

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bots make up like the majority of each ban wave, What do you mean they don’t take action?

Its a free game, Since there is 0 cost of entry bots will always be an issue, Nearly every free game i know of has proportionally more bots and cheaters in it than games you have to pay for.

They also cant just ban cheaters the exact moment they are detected, The reason bans happen in waves is to make it harder for cheat programmers to figure out how their cheats/bots where detected.

yea ngl, all the recent “fomo limited sales!!!” on vehicles we had these two months alone, i watched the 26e1 return TWICE. they are doing a WOT when they started dying out… its already cracking. they still have a change to fix it before its to late, never in my years of palying have i seen so many half off or limiteds apear in a YEAR

I laugh at people who use player count as a metric for a game surviving.

Yeah great, 120,000 players. Isn’t it dying if only 10% of them are actually paying anything?

A game with 30,000 players where 90% of them pay money has a greater chance of survial than one with 120k players with 90% of them just playing for free.

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@Nick_Cloud
lol War Thunder has best in class simulation.
If it was hard to beat DCS & War Thunder, someone would’ve done it by now.
Not even DCS can beat War Thunder.

& if you think Gaijin is a bad company, wait until you find out about Valve [they’re a good company, but… they do all the practices EA does & gets away with it].

War Thunder isn’t dying, & if Gaijin was actually a bad company it’d be obvious.
Comparisons to Sony & Ubisoft would be easy to make.
Comparing War Thunder’s grind to MMOs like Runescape, etc would be easy to make.

@StarScream-Z
You should look into Steam sales.
They seem to be doing just fine with their “FOMO” sales they’ve been doing for years on years.
Gaijin’s just learning from Valve.

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Man that something is worse doesn’t mean another thing is good. Sure there are worse. But WT is bad. Not gonna change my mind ever. I’ve seen how the game goes from 2013.
Example.
With t5 back there, a t4 high ranked was 30 euros something? And you could grind the whole tree.
Same issue a t8 now…it goes 80Eu… Don’t tell me there were less grind because if not more , it was about the same since they remake the RP needed (And have done it several times).
We played events and got PREMIUMS t3 easily. How many T7 premiums you’ve seen in events?
Tell BS to anyone you want, not to me…

Modes, we had EC , they took it back. World War mode , didn’t make after a point. We had historical events every weekend with bonuses in grinding (20-30%)… Not just fly that plane to get a picture. And many many other things…

Anyway, like i said…there are MANY companies that could do better…Especially in gameplay and balancing. The problem is, it doesn’t really sell that much as we believe to care about (for them) .

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The devs need fix the bullet damage models (air and ground), penetration models (air and ground), flight models, small maps (ground),and above all, focus much more(I would focus entirely)on the reporting section to fix bugs that ruin the gaming experience, instead of just adding unnecessary content…The devs also need to do better research when creating the 3D models,they just copy-paste them for two different vehicles.All the Spitfire LF Mk.IXc models are incorrect.This indicates that they don’t do proper research when creating 3D models.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pU90MGMvWWH3