But for both the Abrams and the Leopard the basket is quite full with stuff
the actual turret rotation mechanism arent even that much
you can see the floor on the leopard ingame and irl the thickness irl is much less than the ingame
same with the Abrams, the only part it should be damaging at best is the floor and it shouldnt do that much since ITS ON THE FLOOR and shrapnel wouldnt even reach it because the turret basket would catch it, ingame it create MORE spall
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Cables for the aiming system etc. Like every tank has it. But why should this just modeled for Abrams’ (Abramses? Abramsi? Abrams’s? Jesus what a word…) Why isn’t it modeled for any other tank, but just these two tank lines?
Thats the critical module, the electrical turret drive and it has been already modeled like this before the update. At the turret ring, where it belongs. Making the whole, huge basked a turret drive module as its currently ingame doesn’t really cut it.
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Can’t say for sure for the Leopard
But at least for the Abram’s there are plenty of hydraulics that damaged wouldn’t provide the mechanical advantage needed for rotation.
There’s tank evolution. I doubt the latest Abramsi have hydraulical turret drives. For Leopard 2 it would be just the very early Leopard 2A4 or 3, all others have no hydraulic drives imho.
Britain mains enjoying a cup of tea, as the turret basket is one nerf they cant apply to the Challenger 2s
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VT-5 main:
The big issue too is that the player feedback was to not go through with it. And Gaijin went ahead anyways, effectively (and once again) devaluing their own feedback system. And not holding off until more tanks were modelled was a terrible decision. Full stop. Even if it meant more work in the future, it wouldn’t have seemed so unfair and unbalanced. Because now you have two families of tanks who are operating with a nerf others dont. Coupling that with the fact that, for whatever reason you want to go with, be it too many Clickbaits or whatever; the US has the lowest winrate at top-tier, how else was this suppose to be interpreted?
Because Gaijin won’t come on record and say when they expect to have the next batch of tanks ready, it comes across as a nerf and as unfair. Will they be ready by the next update? Or are we looking at the end of the year? Do they even come this year at all?
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Doesn’t the Chally 2 have the armor around the turret modeled? Correct me if I’m wrong or is it just in between the turret and the engine
It has armour modeled?
And they dont want that
Lmao we suffer together
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But to answer your question, between the turret and engine is 5mm+25mm of armour
and 20mm of armour around the turret ring
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The new tank gun sounds are awful. Why do they continue adjust the game sounds every update.
There would be backup system for it, you think all it take to kill the entire traverse mechanism is one pump goes bad? i dont think so and most if not all enginneers already thought of that and the ingame “hydraulic pump” location is actually a backup/reservoir pump location if it were to be installed
There are so much issues with western tanks.
The turret basket = turret drive plot to nerf them into oblivion.
The FCS, which as a huge dead zone for Leopard tanks from like 3 to 9 o’clock where you can’t aim below +3 degree, means not aim at all. Irl crew can simply switch it off and aim manually, its even written like this on German wikipedia for Leopard tanks. Ingame any enemy at your side or rear can’t be shot at, cause…grrrr
Missing anti Era tips. Missing speed, missing ammo types with safe propellants and underperforming armor.
Why can russians still rotate their turret when a dart hits the sub turret structures? Why is the autoloader still reloading when hit? In contrast: M1 and Leo are basicalle knocked off when a dart flies through the mesh of this basket or hits the ground floor?
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There are also no NATO “nerfs”, but there are “buffs”.
It isn’t.
Not possible, the mesh in Leopard doesn’t have a damage model.
People wanted autoloaders and turret drives modeled, this is what we got.
You want them removed from all tanks including T-series tanks? After demanding them for years?
the problem is the terrible implementation, the abrams turret basket in the first dev when it was introduce is the exact same thing now and 90% the same thing with the leopard
I really don’t get how even these two are the same BR…
Frigate with two rapid-fire 76mm guns (that can sling HE) AND a dual 40 in the back, with tracking radar
vs
Patrol Torpedo boat with two 40mms total and 2km torpedoes (lol)
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