No, report is still open. Willing to bet they’re gonna have a stepped overload limit wherein it’s 60G while burning and 40G thereafter
I’m very familiar with his work so I know when to recognize that there is not enough proofreading when his translator translates his work into English. I also have Viktor Markovsky’s “Soviet air-to-air Missiles” book.
The R-73E existed but it did not go specifically into production as a separate variant since the work that was put into it was transferred to the R-73M - hence why its maximimum kill range is higher. It can be confusing since they use the same suffix to denote two different meanings (export or energy) so you have to be careful. The R-33E is the same as the R-33S but proposed for export, and no R-33S was ever fitted with a nuclear warhead unless that’s been a recent addition. But then the only source I’ve found on that was a recent article that claims the MiG-29 can also use the R-33… in my humble opinion I think you should re-check your information just in case.
S means “special” (warhead). That’s why none russian reliable book or Vympel itself mentions it (only Markovsky mentions nuclear variant of R-33), because it’s weapon never supposed to be used. The first step in modernization of R-33 family was R-37 with ARH seeker.
Even if such missile existed then what? Even you said it was transferred to “R-73M” (project of which died in 90s) , then this missile never had “R-” name and never produced in any sufficient number and has never been put into service.
“The requirements were drawn up in 1984 for K-73 with extended range, after 4 years 16 missiels were produced”. And that’s all. 90s started, most of the projects in Russia died.
For the upgraded MiG-31B interceptor, the production of which began in 1990, an improved modification of the rocket was developed - the R-33S with an active RGSN. The R-33S is the first Soviet missile equipped with an integrated digital BTSVM…
The GSI of the MiG-31-33 automatic transmission system has not yet ended, as the development of the MFBU-520 CSG — the modernization of the MFBU-410 CSG began. At the same time, the modernization of the MiG-31-33 automatic transmission began.
The main directions of modernization of the MFBU-410 CSG were;
— expansion of the range of heights of combat use;
— further increase of the missile launch range;
— defeat of low-flying cruise missiles of the ALCM type.;
— increase of noise immunity for promising types of interference of a potential enemy, including group targets;
— the transfer of the CSG completely to a new element base — transistors and microcircuits (in MFBU-410, the receiving channel was implemented on radio tubes of the Fish series);
— improving the reliability of products.
The development of the MFBU-520 CSG as a whole was carried out by the integrated laboratory of Chief Designer Ermakov B.N. with the participation of industry departments of developers.
The previous structure of relations with related organizations has been preserved: with MKB “Vimpel”, NIIP, NPP “Zenit” and others.
A new generation of specialists took an active part in the creation of the MFBU-520 CSG along with the veterans of the Institute.
A number of new technical solutions to ensure compliance with the requirements of the TOR were protected by copyright certificates. 5 inventions were used in the MFBU-520 CSG.
An improved target capture machine was introduced, which made it possible to increase the target detection range. An increase in the accuracy characteristics of the missile guidance was implemented under the influence of interference. Optimal and nonlinear filtering was widely used to generate control signals.
The probability of hitting elements of a group target has significantly increased.
The increase in reliability was achieved by the use of a new element base and the introduction of a number of additional technological tests for blocks and CSG as a whole.
The development of the MFBU-520 CSG was carried out at the Chief Designer’s stand and at the stand of semi-natural modeling, where the effectiveness of the proposed technical solutions was checked directly by the miss criterion.
A lot of work was carried out at NIIAS on the technical support of the MFBU-520 CSG, on the evaluation of new technical solutions, and especially on the evaluation of targeting low—flying targets (including cruise missiles and group targets).
In 1991, the State Research Institute issued a positive conclusion on the results of modeling and testing, and the R-33S rocket was accepted for mass production and without waiting for the end of the GSI of the upgraded MiG-31-33B automatic transmission, which were successfully completed in 1992.
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RGS MFBU-520
The development of the IFBU-520 CSG was carried out at the NIO-3 NIIP. At the Agat Research Institute, the development of this CSG was continued.
In 1987, the State joint (flight) tests of the missile with the MFBU-520 CSG were to be conducted. However, the MiG-31 aircraft was prepared for launch work only at the end of November 1987 and flight tests began late. By the end of the year, several start-up works were carried out. There were no comments on the work of the MFBU-520 during the launches.
In 1988-90, the MFBU-520 GSI as part of the rocket was continued. At the same time, in order to ensure the implementation of measures based on the results of the GSI, a semi-natural simulation of MFBU-520 was carried out at NIIAS.
The stage of conducting State tests of the MFBU-520 as part of the rocket was repeatedly postponed, however, in 1991 the tests were continued and completed.
FSUE Moscow Research Institute “Agat”. The history of creation and development. 2001
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Perhaps we can create a thread on the R-33. I already manage too many, so until then let’s shelf this discussion as it’s getting off topic and a bit lengthy.
I’ve seen claims that the R-73 in game is a late version/R-73M due to it’s much improved seeker and I kinda understand why but it’s still bugging the hell out of me and I need an answer
It is not, the seeker isn’t impressive. In fact, I believe in many aspects the in-game model is underperforming. It should be 60G for example… at least when motor is burning.
Okay. Then is this the first production version of the R-73? Sorry for asking so many questions but the jump from the R-60M to this thing feels really big and I wish there was a missile that could be added to top tiers other than the SMT (without causing too much difficulty for the enemies in downtiers)
I don’t think the R-73 is particularly OP currently… and it’s the first production model of R-73 it seems.
Made a report to hopefully fix the MiG-29s underperforming AoA.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/H409F96xHyZa
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I was out of CM’s so I fired an R-73 to decoy the magic 2… lol
Is magic 2 good after the buff?
Yes, very… I had to use most of my CM’s by that point to dodge the others he had.
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RVV-MD2 appeared on KTRV website
https://ktrv.ru/production/voennaya_produktsiya/rakety_klassa_-vozdukh-vozdukh/raketa_rvv-md2.html
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about what was expected: still a dual band multi element psuedo imaging seeker like its predecessor tho likely improved processing and with the addition of an IGS and likely datalink for LOAL though more powerful motor leads to significant range increase it seems
Here are the different R-73 variant:
I’ve taken @_Fantom2451 post and tried to upgrade it with other info he didn’t mentionned or were present in the thread.
R-73 (Izdelie 72, R-73E, RMD-1) :Mass produced by Dux (Moscow Machine-building Plant “Kommunar”)
base R-73 variant
105kg
2.9m long
MK-80 seeker, ±45° lock angle before launch; ±75° lock angle after launch
30 km range
60G with TVC (while the motor burn)
40G without
R-73L (R-73EL) :Not produced
base R-73 with laser proxy fuze
Sold to PERU.
R-73M (RMD-2): Not produced (90’s missile no money)
106kg
2.92m long
MK-80M seeker ±60 lock angle before launch; ±75° lock angle after launch
40 km range
K-74ME (export R-73M (?)): Not produced
Only showed as a mockup on MAKS-97.
MK-80M seeker
R-74 (Izdelie 740) :Not produced
same as base R-73, produced by “Kurganpribor”
R-74M (Izdelie 750, RVV-MD) :Produced by DUX and Kurganpribor since 2015.
106kg
2.92m long
MK-80M seeker with improved IRCCM: dual band
±60 lock angle before launch; ±75° lock angle after launch
40 km range
R-74M2 (Izdelie 760, RVV-MD2) :To be produced by KTRV
117kg
3.1m long
±60 (±180 with DL) lock angle before launch
Unknow seeker with multi-element dual band
50 km range
IOG+DL
R-73 “Reverse”
Missile designed to be fired backward with an additional booster to cancel aircraft speed.
115kg
3.2m long.
12km range
MK-80M seeker
Spoiler
Could you link me to the report(s) on the R-73 underperforming please? i would like to see them.
Also i doubt gaijin will buff/fix it even though it is underperforming compared to IRL, because it is not American and reddit is not crying about it with 5600 upvotes. Gaijin likes to leave Russian stuff weaker on purpose so that there is no crying from the community. I hope i am proven wrong tho.
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the jump from AIM-9P to AIM-9L is huge as well. And Red players had to endure the garbage that is R-60M against the literally superior in every way 9L for a year. The only thing R-60M is better at is it starts maneuvering 0.15 seconds earlier than 9L , thats it.