- Update (8 Aug 2025): Gaijin merged my report into the original ticket from 2023.
Please use the new link below and click “I have the same issue!” there.
New link* : https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SFJ3KZoGkHLi
Hi everyone,
The real-world ROC Army (Taiwan) stocked the 105 mm M774 DU APFSDS-T, which was confirmed by UN Technical Note 09.30/02 and a 2012 U.S. Army demil notice (NSN 1315-01-082-9856). Yet in War Thunder, the China tech tree M60A3 TTS is still limited to the tungsten M735, while the identical U.S. M60A3 TTS gets M774, leaving the Taiwanese M60 undergunned at 9.0 BR. I’ve filed a fully sourced bug report that meets Gaijin’s two primary document rule. If you guys like to see historical accuracy and a less painful 9.0 experience when using the Taiwanese M60A3 TTS, please open the ticket below and click “I have the same issue!” on the left-hand side. Thanks!
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Well i don’t have china but if this is true +1
But isn’t this suppose to be add in to the suggestion, not bug reports???
If it had it… add it, but why would you ever play the M60TTS in the Chinese tree when there are now so many better options. I can understand when the tree was first added, it was a bit light on vehicles, but now…
Missing features such like ammunition, engine specifications or any other of this kind should be, mostly reported as bug for such thing, as they can be fixed/implemented much faster than suggestions as they need deeper research, a complex text to why they should be added with background, manual approval from a Suggestion Moderator, be passed to developers and then implemented.
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Like the T-90m APS?
The problem is that gaijin use ammunition as a balancing method, and since they have no idea how to balance vehicles by giving them the real ammunition they use or their real performance, we are left with these aberrations.
I would prefer to add a separate T-90M with APS, as well as a normal M1A2SEP V3 and then one with APS.
That gonna be a very painful grind. Maybe added as a Rank 4 Modification.
No, T-90M with APS is a different vehicle from what we have in-game, matter a fact, T-90M in-game, model 2017, is the earlier variation which doesn’t have active protection system, later modifications were equipped with such feature, it’s not a ‘bug’ subject.
model 2017
APS patent for later modification
optional step
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alr time for Gaijin to add it.
As that lineup has far worse options than TTS and ZTZ-88B in it.
Like what? TTS is bottom tier for China 9.0. 88B is fine, though.
TTS and 88B are the MBTs of the 9.0 lineup.
Wheeled tanks are too situational, with AFT09 being the good one, and even that is pretty situational.
That lineup for some reason has an 8.0 in it that was replaced already by the PGZ09.
Out of that lineup I only keep that AFT09, PTZ89, and PGZ09.
The rest I replace with the 2 helicopters, ZTZ88B, TTS, ZTZ88A. Though if I had T-69 II that’d replace ZTZ88A.
As much as I did well in my own WMA301, it is no where close to as good as an MBT… when it was 8.7. That’s really the theme with many light wheeled vehicles, especially those that are tall without gun depression and without mobility.
WZ305 is better than PGZ09 most of the time. HEAP rounds are unreliable at best.
Not even bothering with the rest of your rubbish.
WMA and PTL and AFT09 clown over any MBT at that BR.
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The US m60a3tts gets the ammo idk why the Taipei one wouldn’t if they are the same BR
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Well, it’s gaijin, if you expect them to make a decent MM, this isn’t your game. Gaijin uses methods to give Br that nobody understands (I don’t think even they do).
The Chinese M60A3 should have at least the M773, and the American M60A3 should have more Br and have the M833.