Vk 30.01(H)

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Id like to suggest the Vk 30.01(H) armed with the 10,5 cm LeFH 18/3 (and as modification 7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24) like a german aquivalent of the M4A3 (105) with less armor. It would offer a fun and well armed as well as armored close support tank to the lower ranks (2.0) and a sidegrade with a turret but also taller as well as with bigger weakpoints to the StuG III Ausf. A and Pz IV Ausf.F1.

The German army allready befor the war wanted a heavy tank assoon as 1938 with the Vk 30.01 as a siege tank. In the following years till 1941 and early 1942 devlopment was till running, as the war progresses, ever growing enemy tanks appeared and as such the requirements also grew, while the weight class set complications on how the design may look, starting at the Vk 30.01, growing into the
Vk 36.01 and eventually into the Vk 45.01 and then into the Tiger I.

The Vk 36.01 was a slight redesign and upsized version of the Vk 30.01 after it was required to increase the armor to 80-100 mm as well as to carry bigger armarments than the Vk.30.01 after its turret wasnt able to carry greater armarment than the 7,5 cm KwK or 10,5 cm LeFH without great redesign.
Overall a couple of hulls and turrets were build and tested, however the ever ground thread and requirements put also a stop to it and development continued on the Tiger I.

However the Vk 30.01(H) had even 1 (allmost) fully completed example, which should be added as the Basic Variant with the 7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24 as well as with a Modification to change to the 10,5 cm LeFH 18/3 L/28 as a trade off for a bit more firepower at the cost of reload speed.

The LeFH 18/3 L/28 was later with normal mounting (instead of like the PzSfl. IVb and StuH 42) used on the B1 Waffenträger (f)

Pictures of the Gun:(Click to show)

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Pictures of the Tank and Turret:(Click to show)

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The Guns:
7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24 and as modification 10,5 cm LeFH 18/3 L/28 coax Mg 34
-10° to +20° Elevation, 360° Traverse at 15°-20° Traverse

Ammo:(Click to show)


7,5 cm Ammo:(Click to show)
(Click here to see Ammosheet)


Ap:


K.Gr. Rot Pz (Apcbc) 6,8 kg 80g Fp.02 und Np.10 (102,4 g TnTa) 385 m/s 52mm/10m

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Gr.38 Hl/B (Heat) 4,57 kg 513g H.5 (872,1g TnTa) 450 m/s 87mm/10m

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Gr.38 Hl/C (Heat) 4,8 kg 515 g H.10 (875,5g TnTa) 450 m/s 115mm/10m

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He:


Sprgr.34 (He) 5,74 kg 725g Fp.02 und Np.10 (928g TnTa) 420 m/s

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Utility:


K.Gr. Rot Nb (Smoke) 6,2 kg 95g Pent 423m/s

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Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 6,65 kg 430 m/s

Adapted 7,7 cm Kt. 7,5 cm Kt. KwK may be slightly different.
280 Lead or Steel Balls.
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10,5 cm Ammo:(Click to show)

Ap:


Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 480 m/s 72mm/10m

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Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 461 m/s 82mm/10m

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Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 105mm/all

(More Pictures in Hl/C)
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Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 115mm/all

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10,5 / 7,5 cm Pzgr.39 TS (Apcbc-DS) 6,4 kg 17g H.10 765 m/s 138mm/10m

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He:


F.H.Gr. (He (TF)) 14,81 kg 1,75 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa) 470 m/s

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F.H.Gr. F (He (TF)) 14,81 kg 2,21-2,335 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,83-2,99 kg TnTa) 540 m/s

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10,5 / 8,8 cm Sprgr.42 Ts (He-DS) 9,3 kg 850-935g Fp.02 and Np.10 (1,088-1,197 kg) 620 m/s

(Didnt find the drawings, as such here is the real thing)
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Utility:


F.H.Gr. Nb. (Smoke) 14 kg 50g smokestuff dont expect much 480 m/s

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Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg 465 m/s

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H.Schr.16 (Shrapnell-TF) 15,6 kg 0,2 kg Blackpowder 461m/s

450 Steelballs of 13,8mm
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
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The Vehicle:
Dimenstions: 5,775 m / 3,155 m / 2,575 m
Weight: 32 t
Engine: HL 116 300-320 PS / 3000 Rpm
Armor: (Look at Pictures drawing)
Front: 50mm
Side and Back: 50mm
Top and Bottom: 25mm

Source:
Thomas L.Jentz Panzer Tracks
Rickard J VK 30.01(H)
Thomas Anderson Tiger
Munition der 7,5 cm KwK
Munition der 10,5 cm LeFH 18
Geschossringbuch I and II

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A neat proposal. Not sure if it would be fitting for TT, maybe low tier event, BP or better yet squadron addition.

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It would be very welcome
Plus +1

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Honestly, this is an absolute +1 from me. This, the VK 36.01 (H), and the VK 30.01 (P) would all be perfect candidates to bridge the gap between the Panzer IIIs and the Tiger Is

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Ghostmaxi, the VK3001 was designed for the KwK 40, right?

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I think it would be a great pairing for the PzIVF2
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As far as i know, they didnt continue, as the turret required major changes to fit it. Ill take a further look next weekend.

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wonder what other vehicle can use this round? would be interesting tank to have fill the gap between panzer 3 and tiger

Technically speaking all armed with the 10,5 cm L/28 gun be it LeFH or StuH 42. It was inteded to increase the AT potential of that gun in general, beyond the current Heat shell, next step would have been the Heat-FS rounds aka “Gr. 39 Hl/C mit KLW” (Klappleitwerk → Deployable fins).

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so any ww2 german 10.5cm gun could fire this ammunition? so the dicker max could use this too as well as the stuh10.5

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I do not know wether it was intended for the more powerfull guns.

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i vote yes

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Did you find anything about his version as KwK40?

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Uh, tbh, i didnt even look again.
I didnt have time.

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This is a perfect tank for a Premium or Battlepass

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1+ Up

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