Mate, this bias has been here since 2012. I started playing in March 2013 and people were complaining about it then. Gaijin continually either deny it or say it’s historically accurate.
TBF, if this was a game made in Britain, the USA, etc, I’d be pretty damn sure that all the vehicles of that country would be overpowered. Nothing has ever, or will ever, stop Gaijin from this blatant bias. You just have to live with it.
Don’t worry - doubtless we’ll get a response along the lines of …
‘Yeah but whatabout insert tangential Kremlin talking point here?’
On the pic - I take it the Maverick must have thwacked the front or side quarter? I’ll bet the crew had ringing ears for six months afterward!
I don’t remember if it’s that picture exactly or another one. But one Abrams had even received a Maverick in the turret ammo storage. Ammo blew up but the crew was still entirely safe and exited the tank alive. The Abrams was later further destroyed to prevent possible capture(Only in mother Russia do farmers steal your latest tanks and AA system, not once but multiple times too. Imagine your average Taliban tractor towing an Abrams and Patriot system away. lmaoooo)
Retracing the detailed story of these 1991 and 2001 events is sadly getting harder and harder with the internet information fully focused on the war in Ukraine. Many early 2000’ vet websites that spoke about this are down while others are lost to the vast ocean that is internet.
and yeah, you bet. The crew sure had ringing ears haha.
Thanks for the context and info.
“not a bug” - report closed
The only way to know it is getting the same amont of them destroyed.
germany suffers need buff and downtier and need dm2000
Perfectly written.
Checkmate for Russian mains.
Noooooo waaaaaay it’s like there’s attrition in war and several nations dumped their entire arsenals of man portable AT weapons into Ukraine or something
Clearly Russia needs to seal club 4th world countries in the desert to assert dominance
Not really, it’s pretty clear there are safety precautions in place in a lot of NATO MBTs that do not exist in the Russian ones, it’s like saying someone with and someone without bulletproof armor are going to die the same amounts of times when being shot at and instead of using logic to deduce that this makes no sense, the only way to proof that is to shoot at people.
Then there is clearly british bias in the game.
And german bias, and literally every nation bias.
WHY?
Because i have to tell you wehraboos every time.
If one of these things are met, the ammo just disappears many times.
These are:
1, Ammo not modelled individually
2, Tank uses 2 piece ammo
And guess what! Soviets use 2 piece ammo!
This is just incompetency from Gaiin’s side.
I have a video of a Tiger 2 taking 3 APDS into the turret ammo and it just not exploding.
Same happened with an AMX 30 AuF, but i don’t have video for it.
As i said previously, if this is evidence for bias, then the biggest bias is in low tier japan, where ammo racks don’t explode like 90% of the time.
The only time a tank with individually modelled single piece round has it’s ammo disappered upon getting hit was a Ferdinand.
You realise that ammo exploding and getting hit by a bullet is different.
If a tank’s armor if penetrated (lets just use APFSDS), it creates thousands of hot, and high speed shrapnels. So a hit far from ammo can still detonate it.
On the other hand, a human body getting hit by a bullet will have different responses, depending on where it gets shot.
A shot in the head, upper chest is lethal, but getting hit in your toe is not something i would call lethal (exclude infections, poisoned bulles, and other BS), despite being painful.
On a tank it is not just the shrapnels from the armor and the dart, but anything the dart goes through will make even more shrapnels.
These shrapnel will go through the protective bins on a Ch2 with ease.
In my first post I erroneously put an image up of a thrown turret of a BMP rather than a T-72. I shall however remedy this with a brief google search…
@O_HOgameplay “These shrapnel will go through the protective bins on a Ch2 with ease.”
Oh really? I’m certain you can provide evidence please that the UK MOD specified protective bins that don’t work? After all - the first ‘kill’ of a CR2 was a HESH round smacking through the top of the turret - sending not only shrapnel but thermal and shock effect also into the fighting compartment.
Yet the tank burned but didn’t explode until the crew had managed to exit the vehicle (2x KIA at the point of impact unfortunately). So much for charge bins that don’t work…
Ahm, because it is a very thin metal getting hit by big pieces of metal traveling at the speed of several 100s of m/s.
The Ch2 in ukraine was destroyed by a missile. So unless we get a decent size of Ch2s destroyed by APFSDS, we can’t know for sure.
You got any test reports on those bins? I am curious!
Yeah, and it’s a lot more likely for your ammo to detonate if it’s in a giant carrousel with your crew in the center of your vehicle opposed to being stored in the back of the turret in a different compartment with blowout panels, unless if you let Gaijin design it.
Wearing body armor doesn’t make you immune to bullets and you can still get hit in other places, yet that hardly seems like a reason to not wear body armor or to pretend body armor is useless.
Dude, i want to ask ou 2 things:
1, Can you read?
2, Can you understand what you read?
I explained why russian ammo does not explode, just like tons of OTHER nations ammo.
Anything like that would be covered to the hilt by the Official Secrets Act - so alas no. You and I don’t know how thick the bins are. What grade of material they are made of. etc.
All we can go on is the results when a CR2 has been struck by IEDs, RPGs, missiles, mines, etc. The results would speak that they do their job.
I think the problem with everything is that the Soviet automatic loaders do not detonate on impact as happens almost every time with all the tanks in the game, and another would be the unreal performance of the kontact 5 and relikt against more modern APDS-FS ammunition. On the subject of contact, I would dare to say that it is because of the volumetric bullets, since because of how badly they are done it has caused a good number of tanks to stop bullets that would be impossible in reality, and everything happens because of the bad that the bullets interact against armor spaced in specific ways, such as fenders, skirts, etc. With the issue of ammunition detonation, it is clearly an unrealistic buff, since otherwise it would mean that any Russian tank with an automatic loader would be destroyed from the first shot no matter where they hit it, since the ammunition occupies the entire center of the tank.
Wehraboo? I think you’re knocking on the wrong door here. I mainly play USA, UK, Israel.
My man, soviet/Ru tanks have been literally broken for what? 2 years now? The argument of bias not existing was fair when the winner was swinging every 2-3 patches but top RU tanks damage models have been grossly overperforming(to stay polite) for years leading to their constant high winrate for all that time.
-Their fuel tanks have spall turned off.
-Their breech don’t spall either and eat shrapnel for breakfast.
-Their side armor barely spall. It’s almost impossible to kill the two guys in the turret in one shot from the side if the turret is facing you.
the list goes on, and on, and on.
Just today, I’ve had a T-80BVM surviving 3 side shots right through the autoloader as he kept driving, on fire, to cover. The ammo doesn’t explode, the crew doesn’t die. Yeah.
I would ask you to try these things for yourself before further answering me but your highest tanks are the T-55/Centurion mk10 respectively so what are you even doing here talking about tanks you never played with OR against?
Which doesn’t matter, yeah shrapnel could happen in occasion, that still doesn’t make them explode equally.
