VEXTRA 105 - Still not EXTRAordinary

You’re still not responding to the fact several other nations have stuff at the same br, or .3 higher, that either outclass it in round right now with comparable performance in most other aspects or will still outclass it upon getting this round.

Why is this fine for France and why is it deemed necessary for France to have subpar munitions compared to the competition at the same, or similar, rating? Or in some cases, even lower rating. This vehicle is not going to work well in a 9.7 line up as it stands, outside of French players on average playing better than other groups that have better kit. It isn’t exactly fair, or accurate.

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i guess the best thing we can do is just to voice our dissatisfaction in a professional way and hope for the best, attacking gaijin devs and staff wont acomplish anything :(

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Please take a look at the Challenger 2 thread and you will quickly change your mind. Well argumented thing doesn’t work. It just depends on what kind of mood gaijin devs have today or tomorrow

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ah… welp, i dont really give a shit about the brits if you’ll excuse my french, but good point, the best way is to just put pressure on gaijin, attacking the staff isn’t really a good way to get things done im still pretty certain on that.

It definitely should lol. With F2 it would be a better M1128 at a lower BR lmao.

But M1128 has M900 with 522mm of pen, which is still 33mm higher than F2!

Right now, M1128 has 161mm more pen just 0.3 BRs higher… that’s 31% higher penetration!

If you think shells makes that much of a difference, even better for my case: Here’s the pens for reference:

M900: 522
F2: 489 (33 less than M900)
F1: 361 (161 less than M900)

Which means that, regardless of F1 or F2, M1128 will still have higher pen; it’s just a matter whether it’s by 7%… or by 31% lol

So, even if Vextra got F2, M1128 would still have the edge in penetration power, just not by such a comically disproportionate margin, so not much would change all that much between these vehicles.

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Cant wait to watch the 10.3 lineup go from not real to very real as belgian/dutch Leopards and CV90s show up and then frances best Light tank is not in fact french, But a Dutch variant of a swedish vehicle.

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well good thing we have what feels like an endless amount of vehicles with the CTA 40

Sorry you will get exactly 1 native CTA-40 carrier (they are going to bolster the lineup dont worry guys)

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will likely be how it plays out lol

I totaly agree this

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It’s just a matter of time before they realise that it can fix lots and lots of line-up problems

Unlike Stryker,the Vextra is actually mobile and with good reverse speed. So it can flank much better so worse round is not an issue. Its light tank after all and even the F1 allows it to frontally take on 11.7 MBTs into the same areas you would be shooting with F2,M900,3BM60,DM53 or whatever other round. And if you flank then nothing matters as you penetrate the sides easily.

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not every map allows you to flank to the levels your talking about and just because you can the vextra should not be held to a double standard just because it can flank

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Sure if you you take penetration in a vacuum. You should know by now that you need to look at the big picture when comparing tanks.

The Vextra is about 50% heavier (assuming no one is stupid enough to take the add on armor on their M1128) than the M1128 while having twice as much engine HP. The difference in mobility between the 2 is massive.

Currently the Vextra is around the same level of capabilities as the VRCC and Centauro ROMOR. Adding F2 would make it significantly better than those 2, meaning it should definitely get a BR increase.

You dont have to flank 1km away around map edge tho. Like lets take Alaska as example,can pretty much flank through the city using various shortcuts between houses nd such nd waiting for enemies to pass by. One example could be between A and B between the skyscrapers,idr the square name rn.

Both vehicles has similiar reverse speed while Stryker has crewless turret, commander thermals and much better firepower.

At least the check the stats before making statements.

Vextra does have better mobility overall, adding F2 shell will surely make it worthy for 10.3

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They were comparing a hypothetical vextra with F2 to a M1128 and that the vextra with F2 ehould have a similar or higher BR rhan the M1128.

Spanish was on the other side of the argument thinking that a hypothetical Vextra with F2 was fine at 9.7.

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Nah thats not okay.

Vextra should be 10.0 with F2 at least, 10.3 will be much better tho.

Keeping Vextra 105 at 9.7 with F1 shell is the real crime tbh.

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At dev the Vextra was reversing 60 km/h,that is definitely not speed Stryker could reverse at.

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