Implement equally strong MBTs for everyone.
You notice none of the tanks you deem “powerful” got nerfed, let alone all the powerful MBT beyond what you think is powerful.
M1A2 has slightly more armor over 2A5, slightly more pen due to the superior round, the reload of a Leclerc, and among the fastest movement.
But somehow M1A2 “bad” cause it’s not a Strv 122, which fires a round worse than M829A1.
You switch playstyles/get more comfy maps.
They did.
Leopard 2A7’s spall liners are barely cosmetic right now.
Look at this spall, through the “spall liner”. It’s like a frag grenade went off. Leopard 2A7’s spall liners worked properly at first, but, upon complaints of how OP it was, they were turned into… whatever they are suppossed to be now.
Or here:
The Leopard spall liners are no longer functional at all. Same goes for T-90M’s spall liners, turned cosmetic as well after complaints about how OP T-90M presumably was because of them. Challenger 2’s hull spall liner works, but not the ones on the turret. Basically spall liners are barely a cosmetic to gimmick right now.
So you think the Merkava Mk.4s, the Arietes (till just now that Italy got 2A7V), the Challenger 2s… are “equally as strong” as the 2A7s or the 122s…?
Not really, I play all of my MBTs the same way; semi-agressive assault, with strategic positioning when the situation cals for it, but always directed towards pushing the enemy back to the spawn after capturing the zones (sorry, I couldn’t camp even if I got paid for it xD)
you know, I know, everybody knows that blaming the maps dont work, on one game you have CQB and after sniping game. Gaijin didnt implement something that you can ban multiple maps, so any tank can and NEED do good under any circumstances or this game is not BALANCED.
I think that if gaijin implement a better matchmaking, good part of the complain on US will cease, until there we need a better balanced abrams.
wtf, how am I lying, i literally get the pen protection on the game IT SELF.
if you gonna complain that click-bait can 1 shot challenger 2, WOW, imagine if the same is also true:
wow, any tank can be one shoted, what a discovery
Dont get me wrong, im not saying that that challenger 2 dont deserve a buff or its OP, its literally the opposite
In short; as of now:
33% of the Top Tier MBTs are above the rest
33% of the MBTs are average at best
33% of the MBTs are beneath the rest
The Abrams falls into the lower end of the second category… so no, they aren’t THE WORST… but they are still barely a far cry from what they should actually be.
Lets be honest since this game was developed in Russia the American tanks in this game are going to be bad!
Well Abrams works best in CQC, one of the reasons good players used it in 2019 and 2020.
If I got Advance to the Rhine and USA was on the enemy team… loss.
It’d be different on maps like Euro Province.
They are just very good at flanking but I don’t know how you feel, I just feel the survivability sucks in comparison to BVM or STRV 122B, which should all go to 12.7 even the 122A since they all have spall liner.
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He quoted me saying: “what Gaijin currently does”, and added himself: “implement equally strong MBTs for everyone”.
So no, I didn’t put words on anyone’s mouth. Read.
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The sccreenshots in the op in general are just weird. M829A2 can easily pen the BVM and ZTZ LFP, while 3BM60 can also easily pen the M1A2 LFP. Yet all LFPs don’t show as green.
It’s an armor viewer bug. I however don’t understand why OP didn’t edit the post with correct pictures.
These bugged pics really diminish the visual impact and value of the point being made.
Agreed M1A1 AIM@live but where are you going to get all those new American players ?
The Strv 122s should all be 12.7 in this scenario, they are in no way counterparts to the Leopard 2 PSO lol.
Ironic, the same thing could be said for people who can’t go at least positive in their M1A2s.
I once met a leopard 2A5 with ~1200 games, ~1200 deaths and ~400 kills. I thought that was already an achievement, but the figures above are almost impressive.
Seems like nothing much has changed in 2 yeras. I find it interesting when thinking about what nation to play as at Top tier.
When talking about minor nations it’s also important to note that minor nations usually make up a smaller part of the total team and thus are also dependant on who they get matched with. They also have a chance to be paired with other big nations from time to time.
Even if you look at the somewhat questionable WT heatmap or just personal winrates. It’s obvious that minor nations that get matched with Russia (China) and Germany/Sweden (Italy) a lot also show a higher winrate, while minor nations that get matched with the US (UK, Israel) show a lower winrate.
I’m not denying that there is a massive issue with bad players in US teams, because that is definitely true, but in the end there is a reason why German/Swedish teams win so much (besides bad US teams). This reason is that the 2A7s and Strv 122 are just such easy mode tanks that fit the war thunder meta absolutely perfectly.
If there is a team with 7-8 2A7s/Strv 122s with some italian players tagging along, sure the italian players are very good, but their chance of winning was already a lot higher before the game even began.
This is absolutely overshooting it again. it might not be the best tank at top tier, but it’s far far from bad lol.
I have yet to see credible proof for that rumored improved reverse speed.
T-80/90 weakspot is much larger than that. The armour behind rubber screens on lower plate is guaranteed huge weakspot even Vs Leopard1 apds. Yes, apds, not even apfsds
Wait, an externally filmed shot that’s artificially sped up isn’t valid evidence in your book?!
Same as T-90M i think
Only copium with speed up
