USA top tier needs a change

T-80BVM hull and turret, and M1A2 turret cheeks: Armor

The rest of the Abrams (in game): Paper

About half of the UFP of the Abrams will bounce, but even without that the Abrams has larger and easier-to-hit weakspots. Additionally, there is only one weakspot on the T-80BVM that will oneshot (the tiny area just below the cannon).

Last time I checked the PSO has better hull armor iirc.

They’re smaller, with either spall liners or better mobility while having similar armor (compared to most of the 122s, at least)?

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You forgot to put 2S38 at 14.0 and pantsir at 18.7

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bro notice how single person you just said has not got to TOP TEIR USA yet. out of all 4 people Ur the only one. maybe ion has but idk i would have to look at his profile also I also play a lot of nations and dipped a little into others such as Sweeden, israil, China, Russia and Germany. and every nation that I’ve played has not been as bad as usa

So true!

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People can gather information on cross analysis without playing the vehicles.
That’s how I determined 2S38 was a Soviet Strf 9040C.
And after revisiting Begleit, while getting into HSTVL and VCC-80/60, that assessment was on point.
I’m a few tanks away from Strf 9040C, but thanks to 2S38 and content creators, I learned how to play the auto-light vehicles.

No, some may not have first hand experience with M1A2.
Some may not have my parity performance in Challenger 2 and T-80BVM.
At the end of the day, people can assess things before they get there, and that assessment mostly be true more times than we think.

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yea people do tend to asses’ things before they get there. but when it comes to USA the only thing people say is that it’s a skill issue. if ever player was like you, I would assume the win rates would go up and we can all have a wonderful time but that’s not the case. also, my friend was planning on grinding the challengers you got any tips for him I have not ever played the Challys before.

Abrams_bingo

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Here is the screenshot of a random person at top tier. And guess what, team are made of these type people.

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Real

Play Challengers cautiously to start.
Adopt tank doctrine over matches.
Use map knowledge and positioning. Keep ears open when in urban.

Then play all tanks in the game like Challenger 2 with different speeds, ammo, and armor.
It’s how I perform rather consistently in all the top spaded vehicles except Leclerc. Partially cause I was more reckless in Leclerc.

It also didn’t help my T-80BVM playing cause people keep shooting my turret instead of my UFP unless I’m facing Abrams, then those specific tankers shoot my UFP… and I stopped wondering why people are complaining about Abrams.

And I do my best not to bring up those players cause it’s rude to talk about people that just don’t know where to shoot the tanks they’re facing in that match.
Leopard 2, Strv 122, Merkava, Ariete, Type 99, Challenger 2, and of course Type 10 and Leclerc players all consistent shoot my T-80BVM’s turret knocking my breech out regardless of the angle they shoot the turret… cause it’s a turret from BR 10.3 seen on the T-80B.

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How is 16% winrate even possible.
I think if i tried i couldn’t achieve that.

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You dont have to get to top tier USA to see its a skill issue, the m1 is objectively a good mbt better than most yet has a low win rate

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Oh no it doesn’t. You might’ve had looked at the wrong tank.

And I’m about it! When you have USA in your team past 10.3 it is instant lose. Literally 4 horsemen of apocalypse at top tier: M1A1 Clickbait, M1A1 AIM, M1 KVT, F-4S Phantom II.

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You get a template for this one? it’s real good

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21 frags… 306 deaths.
36 frags… 313 deaths.

I’m sharing that.

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I almost fell off my chair when I saw it

The real debate of this topic is do you balance for the average player or professionals? Currently US ground doesn’t really have anything with that new flavor so the good players, who have access to other nation’s top ranks, aren’t playing the US. This results in an overload of worse than average players who are likely grinding top tier for their first tree, as the US is one of the most played nations.

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How about it’s more about you rather than vehicle if you ever think about that you know , I was us main once and you can see my stats on the american tanks(pretty obvious as a starter nation which i was started playing it in 2021) and other minor nation mbts which triples the kd of the abrams.

has to be a bot…