I know how to deal with Pantsir pretty well, the thing is as long as he stays there he will keep you away from battlefield, especially if he’s smart.
Personally i use terrain and buildings to avoid enemy planes mavericks so i dont waste any missiles on them, after that i simply delete them and their chances to turn the tidle.
Smart Pantsir player will always beat Cas player, unless terrain gives advantage to Cas player.
People keep saying just dunk mavs rearm and repeat the process, what they are forgetting is GRB matches last 10-15 mins usually and Pantsir can easily keep you away from the battlefield during that time (not even gonna talk about enemy fighters nor Ka-52/Mi-28NM’s), whats funny is if he turns off his radar you will most likely not gonna notice him while he can track you with his optic guidance and not giving any warnings.
Pantsir shouldnt be added, its an unfair advantage compare to other SPAA platforms.
I just fire mavericks towards enemy tanks and not the Pantsir at first to see if the Pantsir would intercept them. If not I’ll just keep doing it and if the Pantsir does, I just focus fire the Pantsir from angles where the Pantsir can’t hide. Remember that planes have freedom of movement and can attack from any angle they choose from.
I disagree. Its the opposite.
I had a match and it took me 2 minutes to spawn a plane, shoot 3 mavericks, dive low, shoot my last 3 mavericks, then return to base and come to a stop.
No radar = cannot track Mavericks. When I spawn a plane I always assume theres a Pantsir up and immediately start looking with my TGP. Assuming the Pantsir immediately sees me and fires a missile I know I have roughly 8 seconds before impact (assuming closure rate of mach and flying in a straight line) (also assuming that the Pantsir’s missile speed average is always top speed). Realistically its more like 10-12 seconds because of reaction time and missile drag slowing it down.
Not gonna argue about this whole Pantsir situation, in order to beat Pantsir you have to be smarter than him and if you’re not you will not gonna be effective on battlefield, simple is that.
IMO top tier CAS right now gives an insane advantage over everyone. I think its only fair if all nations get something that has similar capabilities of the Pantsir.
Equal capabilities for everyone? Perfectly fine in my book.
Unfair advantage for nation that has best Helicopters and best A2G munition that can outrange any enemy Spaa while doing this with amazing speed? Totally unfair.
Then yeah theres a clear disparity between Pantsir and other SPAAs. Even the 2nd best SPAA doesn’t even come close. If Gaijin can’t add better SPAAs then they should just lower fighter SP cost with A2A capabilities.
Im spading my F-111C in order to grind Tornado Gr1, dont get me start on F-4S and Mig-23ML players who constantly bombs bases and dies to First guy they see.
In a 1v1 sure. In ARB that crown belongs to the Flanker. You don’t need to dogfight everything, the Flanker has the top speed and TWR to run away. Even in dogfights the Flanker isn’t completely helpless, its bad but the R-73 can help a lot.