Ariete, Merkava, Chally 2s, non-uparmored Leo 2s, Leclercs?
Hello?
Is it just me or do the hardcore US mains truly believe M1s are the worst MBTs in the game. Not every tank you see at top tier is a 2A7V/Strv 122 or T-90M/80BVM.
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Put tin foil hat on.
Gaijin add either Abrams X or M1 CATTB making another powercreeb at top tier leaving Japan,UK,Italy,etc ever more behind. A lot of players came back US to unlock new toys.
But Gaijin also put M1A2 SepV2 with Hardkill APS as a premuim tank on sale. Thus US top-tier winrate still rock bottom.
Take tin foil hat off
If Gaijin doesn’t care to stop being greedy about selling premuim vehicles. They should at least try to balance top-tier with better match-maker
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It’s just what a lot of nation mains do. US mains are loud so it’s obvious, but it’s a general trait of hardcore nation mains.
Came across some dude a while back who was convinced that Russia was one of the worst nations and that the BVM was THE worst top tier mbt, while the Ariete was “not as bad as everyone makes it out to be” according to him.
Also enough German and Swedish mains that believe that the 2A7s and 122s are not as dominant as they are in reality.
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Don’t you just love it when Germany (2nd best MBT in the game after the Strv 122 series), Sweden (best MBTs in the game + very potent CAS) and Russia (above average top tier MBTs + extremely potent CAS + best SPAA in the game) just get paired together?
I sure do. Now just give 'em Italy so that they can have another “2A7V” and another Gripen, lol.
Jokes aside, this matchmaking is horrible, I preferred it when it was NATO versus Russia + China, at least 2A7s were capable of carrying the Click Baits, now it’s just, idk, seal clubbing but literal?
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The other issue is that with US, half way through the match I was the only player on the floor a number of times, except a few people delegated to SPAAs.
Man I really do hate US teams. I beg Gaijin to stop putting the Clickbait on sale.
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Perfectly described.
No matter how many kills do i get its never enough to carry Click-Bait players, fighting against best nations puts the cherry on top.
This mm seriously need some rework, i cant enjoy my hard earned Abrams because of this.
I hate Click-Bait itself, not the Us teams.
Honestly I think having the mindset of “carrying the lvl 6 premium spammers” is a wrong one to have here, so is “trying to enjoy the Abrams”.
IMO, if you want to consistently win as the US against the Invincible Trio, you should focus on playing just well enough in your Abrams to get you get enough SP to get into an F-16C or the F-15C/E and mentally dominate the opposing team by raining hell from above.
I’m familiar with that tactic, problem is as soon as you start killing someone with Cas they starts to spawn in either Pantsir/ITO or CAP which makes it pretty hard to dominate the battlefield, especially against smart Pantsir players.
Even if i enjoy my F-111F/F16C combo i prefer to enjoy my Abrams first and thats where the problem begins, i dont expect to win every single match but for god sake at least let me win sometime will ya Gaijin :D
Unfortunately US teams are mostly comprised of Clickbaits. I don’t hate the nation or the experienced players themselves.
Yeah but even still, this may not be enough. I had a game where 7 of my teammates had 0 kills.
Its not actually that hard to dunk on the Pantsir, even the good ones. Just a simple maverick saturation and peekaboo + constant re-arming is enough.
I know how to deal with Pantsir pretty well, the thing is as long as he stays there he will keep you away from battlefield, especially if he’s smart.
Personally i use terrain and buildings to avoid enemy planes mavericks so i dont waste any missiles on them, after that i simply delete them and their chances to turn the tidle.
Smart Pantsir player will always beat Cas player, unless terrain gives advantage to Cas player.
People keep saying just dunk mavs rearm and repeat the process, what they are forgetting is GRB matches last 10-15 mins usually and Pantsir can easily keep you away from the battlefield during that time (not even gonna talk about enemy fighters nor Ka-52/Mi-28NM’s), whats funny is if he turns off his radar you will most likely not gonna notice him while he can track you with his optic guidance and not giving any warnings.
Pantsir shouldnt be added, its an unfair advantage compare to other SPAA platforms.
I just fire mavericks towards enemy tanks and not the Pantsir at first to see if the Pantsir would intercept them. If not I’ll just keep doing it and if the Pantsir does, I just focus fire the Pantsir from angles where the Pantsir can’t hide. Remember that planes have freedom of movement and can attack from any angle they choose from.
I disagree. Its the opposite.
I had a match and it took me 2 minutes to spawn a plane, shoot 3 mavericks, dive low, shoot my last 3 mavericks, then return to base and come to a stop.
No radar = cannot track Mavericks. When I spawn a plane I always assume theres a Pantsir up and immediately start looking with my TGP. Assuming the Pantsir immediately sees me and fires a missile I know I have roughly 8 seconds before impact (assuming closure rate of mach and flying in a straight line) (also assuming that the Pantsir’s missile speed average is always top speed). Realistically its more like 10-12 seconds because of reaction time and missile drag slowing it down.
Not gonna argue about this whole Pantsir situation, in order to beat Pantsir you have to be smarter than him and if you’re not you will not gonna be effective on battlefield, simple is that.
It is unbalanced and shouldnt be added.
IMO top tier CAS right now gives an insane advantage over everyone. I think its only fair if all nations get something that has similar capabilities of the Pantsir.
Thats why i said its unfair.
Equal capabilities for everyone? Perfectly fine in my book.
Unfair advantage for nation that has best Helicopters and best A2G munition that can outrange any enemy Spaa while doing this with amazing speed? Totally unfair.
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Oh you’re talking about RU SPAA vs Everyone elses SPAA.
Yup.
Then yeah theres a clear disparity between Pantsir and other SPAAs. Even the 2nd best SPAA doesn’t even come close. If Gaijin can’t add better SPAAs then they should just lower fighter SP cost with A2A capabilities.