In my opinion Stryker MSL can be added after the ADATS.
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100% this is what is needed at a minimum. Slaamram is another good one that I think would be needed to be modified for the game, but a good option.
Stryker MSL however needs no modding and exists on a complete package.aim9’s/stingers, hellfires and 30mm cannon.
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sorry for miss info guys aim120a/c5 wouldn’t even be op if they add right now it can barely catch up with mig15 going 1000km straight line more than 10km as i show you in these pics so even if add right now it would be lees the Panstir and close to vt1
THAAD and Patriot would be FAR less potent that a current ADATS. You get no launch warning from an ADATS, no RWR notification that it’s tracking you, and it has smokeless motors…
The Patriot has ALL of these.
The THAAD has ALL of these.
No smokeless motor, you know exactly when they see you and when they fire. Most are static emplacements, so the already abundant gliders will be able to cross-map you with a minute or so of waiting.
What I’m all for is adding experimental / paper SPAA for America. A large majority of nations are tied to good SPAA, though America ditched most of these in the '90s due to the cost of their development.
In other words… I REAAAALLLLYYYY need an AGDS.
The C-5 has a 10km increase from a static position over the 120A/B… You’re comparing two entirely different missiles and using the worse one as a baseline.
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If it’s mobile, absolutely. If not, there’s no reason to even think about it.
Bro, you know the THAAD isn’t for intercept aircraft right?
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It doesn’t matter what it’s for.
It does, how to you use a SAM system designed for intercept balistic missile from space to intercept a low flying plane? This is just like using Tor to shoot tank, is nearly impossible
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i see your point on c5 having more range that case would be 100% if it was lunch from aircraft at mach1 at alt of 4km it would have more then 10km around 22km depend on the target but from ground lunch with 0 alt 0 speed the c5 and a120 aren’t that far range wise the d/v of aim120a is around 880 m/s and c5 aim120 around 930m/s d/v so that would not give it 10km as you stated more like 3km to 6km at max
both missile c5 a120a have same wight after Moter burn out and c5 has better drag
are you talking about mobile SPAA
with ARH missiles?
the only aim120 SPAA mobile launcher with more than 20km range is the Amaram-ER 50km max range and around 25km to 30km for fast aircraft (it has booster that lunch it to around mach2 before the aim120 Moter kick in so that how it gets its range even at such low speed and alt
I never once insinuated it was going to be used to shoot down a plane. Unlike the ADATS, the THAAD will give you every single indicator you would need to find it. Unless it can fire 4-6 missiles at glide bombs, I don’t see it surviving for more than 60 seconds in a GRB/GSB match.
50% longer flight time, a far more effective booster, better pull off the rip, FAR better tracking to help it hold speed, it’s literally a faster and more aerodynamic AIM-120 with a better propulsion system.
Your shot was of a MiG-15 at 10km. The missile was travelling EXTREMELY slow by the time it hit, and as you said, you were stationary.
The 120C-5 has a maximum kill range of 25km when ground launched. Seeing as the 120B is 15 and only reaches out to 10, I’d imagine the 120D can hit a pretty predictable transonic target out to 20km.
What’s 20-10?
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The AMRAAM-ER isn’t an AIM-120. It’s an ESSM.
If we’re talking about the SL-AMRAAM exclusively, it uses AIM-120C-5s.
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Only in the case where Air targets fly closer to the ground. (terrain hug) that ADATS has better change with surprise attack. (heck i would even said that M247 are a lot better in this situation)
But it far greater range and higher altitude (space bomber) that THAAD and Patriot are better than ADATS. Remember How R-27ER perform ? HIMAD missiles can be better than those.
But yes due to Most HIMAD need to be deploy and corporate together as a unit. Thus they are vulnable to SEAD and pre-plan bombing from low altitude. Unless they are moving after each missiles launch.
Not to mention it dead boring to just sit there waiting for enemy to spawn Aircraft so you could do somethings.
As i said in other topic best bet is to Give HIMAD to Ai control that would force most CAS pilot to stay close to the ground where player with SHORAD vehicles have potential against them.
With somethings like Radar station on capture point that could extent it range over ground battlefield.
Also SL-AMRAAM can use AIM-9X too
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A bigger, faster missile with a lot more range and significantly larger warhead would be less potent than a slower, smaller missile?
I mean, maybe given how WT models things. But the Patriot is a far more dangerous system than the ADATs
A non-mobile system that needs constant LOS to the enemy. The advent of simple GPS/GNS guided ordnance to the game renders them entirely useless.
They’d need anywhere from 5-20 seconds of LOS on target to be able to hit an aircraft, and that’s counting on the missile being capable of maneuvering to the target.
An aircraft needs nothing more than a glance at them to drop a bomb or 6.
Germany could get this Pantsir complex, mounted on one of our MAN KAT 8x8. Even one with MRAP upgrade kit.
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the problem is that usa doesn’t really use shorad systems in its doctrine, adding patriot or thaad would only force gajin to add cruise missiles to cas , and an expansion of the map, it just gets more complicated and overall worse for everyone.
what I would do is allow israeli shorad systems like hsvd adams and sypder-aio go to the american tech tree, as the hsvd adams project worked with General dynamics(an american company), and the us gives a lot of money to israeli defense comapnies, so adding the spyder-aio or hsvd adams makes sense.