Let’s be honest. Most leaks happen for USA. We’ve had 2 F-16, 1 F-15, 2 F-14, a few abrams ones, and so on.
Oh I don’t doubt it. But as far as I have seen / heard. That’s typically at much higher speeds.
It would be weird if that wasn’t the case, since USA is probably the most popular tree overall, definitely the most popular in top tier air.
yeah, low speed, TVC sukhois and F-18 reign king
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lmao I agree with the “everyone gets this vehicle” mentality… because trying to play 9.3 - 10.3 USSR sim in ground, all you see is T-72s, and I’m amazed there isn’t more team killing.
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the R-77 is supposed to actually be out preforming AMRAMM.
R-27ERs were powerful yes, but the counter to it was Aim-9m, which continues to be one of the strongest sim aams in game.
That’s why I flip sh*t when my spaded Su-27 can’t out turn a mirage XD
As the whole point of being massive is to turn better and carry more in the Su-27.
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TVC? Thrust vectoring?
yeah
I don’t have the keybinds for that setup. Too many controls as is on controller
Yes. It was better than AIM-120A. I was worried that it would be the R-27ER story all over again before the Fox 3 update.
AIM-120A was introduced when Russians were still using primarily R-27R, so it would be unbalanced as hell. R-77 is an AIM-120C5 equivalent. Pretty much all Fox 3s that were introduced would smoke AIM-120A.
Gaijin didn’t want to add AIM-120C5 straight away, so I think they gave AIM-120A the performance of AIM-120C5 or close to it, which I would be fine with, the exact name would be wrong, but the vibe would be kept. However, for some reason they also nerfed all the other missiles pretty hard, which I don’t understand. They could keep R-77 and MICA realistic and just not add the AAM-4 yet.
I might be biased here, because I find the flying low meta to be absolute dogshit. Maybe I had the meta missile, but I didn’t enjoy it at all. You can see it in my kd on F-15A. It was also my first gen 4, but the stats are this bad primarily because I refused to comply with the meta and tried to make AIM-7Ms work against Su-27s.
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europe not less.
no, 120A/B barely close to British 120B tests
This is false. R-27ER was not relevant in sim due to multipathing effect starting at 60m. The whole entire rationale behind reducing it was because it made radar missiles irrelevant in sim because hugging the deck and forcing merge was too easy.
The repeating scan pattern was an issue that was constantly brought up and practically nobody cared until it affected the Eurofighter.
The Mirage 2000 and the Gripen were the only two planes that had parity with some American planes. And they are in minor nation tech trees that rotate sides in Sim.
This basically describes most tech trees in the game that are not USSR or USA.
Not having a beef with them doesn’t change the fact that other people felt perfectly fine justifying the F-4F ICE as an equivalent to the F-16C.
This would be a silly argument.
Or…crazy thought…Gaijin could have just shoehorned an F-16 into the German tech tree just like they did for France and Japan. Or how they shoehorned the Gripen into the British tech tree. And that would have been consistent with the games model.
None of the vehicles in the game are meant to be placed at battle ratings where they are deliberately bad. This is why battle ratings are subject to change and there is not “historical matchmaking” based on service date.
These planes are balanced at their tier because of their mediocre flight performance. F-4F ICE is only a threat to planes like F-15A due to AMRAAM and is completely outclassed if it ever finds itself in a merge. And due to multi-path and flat maps…this isn’t unreasonably challenging to do.
There is no difference. If you had played red side you would have seen multiple instances of F-15C/F-15E literally just flying up the middle of the map and pointing directly at airfields to spam missiles. There are even blue side mains that would try to run radar off and get near the airfield as well and ambush people in the same way that red side players would ambush blue players.
There are significantly less American players now than there were two weeks ago. There is not a single game of sim since the update where I have been forced to fight 2v8 or anything similar to what the status quo was previously.
Right now as I type this…there are around 40 USA players in top tier sim games and there are around 42 USSR/GER players in top tier sim games. And this isn’t counting minor nations that go on both sides. At any one point prior to the update…around 2/3rds of the top tier sim population was playing USA.
And if the Eurofighter was buffed and the game left in it’s current state for a year where USA receives no relevant planes that we would see a similar collapse in player count. Heck…anecdotally I have seen more blue side teams completely quit the game in the past two weeks and not have replacements queued up than at any previous point in the games history. This is especially true if France is on the red side and there are a significant number of Rafales.
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I kind of disagree here. 13.0 planes with AMRAAM and 9M completely outclasses everything below them, no matter how badly they fly. I’m having success with the FA2 and it’s an objectively bad plane for sim. No HUD lock indicators, bad flight performances (it flies like a freaking GR1), no gun, only 5 missiles with the optimal loadout… But it has a TWS, 9M and Aim120, and I’m farming fools in Mirage F1 and Mig29 all day.
The ICE and the Di are even more obvious example. The Di has a freaking 4-points RWR, and I see them farming Phantoms and F14 regardless.
Sure the Gripen A, M4000 and F15A can challenge them easily, but there’s an obvious gap in performance between 12.7-13.0 and anything below that the Sim bracket highlights clearly.
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All I have to say. Is the Su-33 is 13.3 in sim… with no Fox 3s…
All while being a better turning Su-27
Yeah, the Su-27 and 33 at 13.3 is ridiculous.
Tornado F3 Late is also 13.3 and it’s easily a match for the ICE, so either the ICE has to go up again or the F3 Late need to go down to 13.0. I’d prefer they moved the ICE again.
Idk if the Su-27 needs to go down, doesn’t it get R-77s? I’ll have to check but I haven’t played it since I spade it.
The Su-33 on the other hand, should be an 13.0 easily
Su-27 is a 13.3 too. Both are at 13.3 only because of R-27ER, which now doesn’t even give an RWR launch warning. R-27ER is just that powerful.
It honestly harms them more than helps them, because 6 or even 8 R-27ERs makes them too strong for 13.0 and they are useless at 13.3. They would be better off with R-27Rs at 13.0, with their flight models now being much better.
No the SU-27 only have the base kit of R27ER / R73 / R27ET, with the same radar as the SM and the worse RWR. It’s fine at 13.0 in RB but it’s a completely pointless plane in Sim when the SM is right there and even the 29SMT has a better kit.
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The R27ER does give a launch warning, I’m 100% sure about that. The ET doesn’t since it’s an IR missile, and it’s my primary weapon on these plane for this reason.
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