Well yes, that’s why everyone eventually went this route. It’s the same story as with speed vs maneuverability.
However, the missiles we have currently still make WVR very viable (in sim). Now we have a fun and interesting, asymmetric gameplay dynamic. Not only that, but each plane is good in the niche it’s actually good in irl, without flipping the roles.
Ofc it’s not perfect, but it has gotten much better.
Now I wish the Russian missiles will get sorted out. R-27ER buffed back to it’s realistic, cracked state and removed from MiG-29As and base Su-27s. R-73 added to all MiG-29s.
I think MiG-29s flight models are mostly fine, I’ve heard complaints only about the MiG-29SMT.
It’s too early to say now, but so far the Eurofighter looks broken.
Yeah MiG-29smt’s flight model and radar are still a dumpster fire.
While we are at it, why not give the Su-39 two R-27R or T aams? It had them irl. I don’t really see a reason it can’t have them in game. Hell, it (could get R-77s as well).
But if they made it so R-27ers were something to be feared again, instead of doing a simple turn and bam they miss, then it may make top tier Russia viable to play with the right skill set.
Yea a simple notch will make a R-27er miss, but oh no, not an aim-120
How would it be 13.0 with r-77s? You just played yourself, the F-14A (and the Iranian one) have ARH aams at 12.3, and vastly more speed to get the full use of the aim-54s
Due to the slower airframe, the R-77 and R-27 would be far less effective on the Su-39.
So the only other true remedy, is to give it 4 R-73, and 2 R-60ms. (By your account)
The Su-25sm3 is already at an unbelievably high br for air sim, give the fact it only has 2 aams.
I do know how to notch lmao. Would you like to test that?
Why must the soviets constantly suffer? We are always outnumbered, outclassed, and ganged up on due to the lack of skill of other nations.
Su-39:
Lacks a MAW,
Lacks 4 ircm aams
Lack visibility
Lacks pingless iff
(Only benefit is speed and a irrcm that barely works)
Meanwhile: The a-10c at the same br of 11.7
Has a maw (and absolute tons of cms)
Has a thermal pod
Has pingless iFF
Has 4 ircm aams
Superior turn rate compared to anything at the br
Plenty of cannon ammo
Great visibility
Lacks speed
Red side started winning games again without the need for a dedicated super squad. France on red side practically guarantee a balanced game that usually results in red side win now. Heck…a few friends that play exclusively red side have seen win rates go from 20-30 percent to around 80 or 90 percent with the introduction of the Rafale and Eurofighter.
A-10c doesn’t need to find targets, people will find it, think it’s the A-10A, fire an aam, which will be eaten by the MAW, then it’s game over unless you boom and zoom.
A-10 can keep up in 2 circle or longer.
And are you talking about thermal pod signature range? Pretty much every thermal pod has a locked range in game.
The only plane that is better BVR than the F-15C/F-15E/F-16C is the Eurofighter. An argument can be made that the F-15s are better due to being able to carry 8 AMRAAM while Eurofighter carries 6 AMRAAM.
Even WVR…the Eurofighter is strong in initial turn but lacks energy retention of things like Gripen and F-16 so it is not impossible to beat in a dogfight…especially when flown by average EC player. Rafale is harder to deal with but even then…it’s on par with the F-15A in a dogfight…which really just goes to show how overpowered USA flight models have been the entire time.