the one place it hasnt got the best is in dogfighter, that’s a close one between the Japanese Mitsubishi zeros and British Supermarine Spitfires. The USA has got one of both but not quite the best versions of either
You just got the Eurofighter, USA is not the best anymore.
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That doesn’t mean they don’t have a strong line up , in fact they have the best Jet lineup for multi role fighter. Bringing up one jet to say “They are not the best anymore” is irrelevant
Oh no another SU-27 player complaining that he can’t notch AIM-120
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Can you tell me exactly what lineup you talking about.
F15C/F16C/F15E ? What other nation have a line up as strong as these ? Not even the russian with their chubby Su34 can match. Let alone minor and Ger (which they desperately need the EF) Brtit and France for getting a single new jet ?
Yet only 1 of those can be used in ARB xd
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Sound like skill issue
Lol what? Ur point about strong line up got disproven so now you have to resort to “skill issue”
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Germany was behind for years now but it’s not anymore, also USA is now on par with nations that received the Eurofighter. Also @Fanta_3412 got a point you can only bring one of them.
f16c beats a su27sm 7/10 easily, grippen current fp is defenitly not on paar with documents
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Ah yes, allow me to BVR with one of the draggiest missiles in game that is hard coded to self destruct at 50.8km, missing 37.5% of its range and a majority of its energy retention.
Best BVR is the US with the AIM-54 and F-90
I have a hard time rationalizing the missile that only kills you if you fly straight is somehow the best bvr missile. Otherwise, top tier would be chock full of them.
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I mean considering you get one jet in ARB, that’s exactly what it means.
Lineup is for sure better overall, but if you’re playing ARB, then yeah. It would be the best, not even mentioning that even with a lineup, being the best is being the best, it’s irrelevant of lineup.
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Micas have severely limited range compared to aim-120s, and the US is definitely the best at BVR right now.
I’ve heard that the J10 is fairly good too.
Fair play.
Just because it sucks in one aspect doesn’t make it not the best BVR missile, even if you don’t want to count them the AIM-120 is still better then the competition by a large margin.
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I see false flagging baiters appear upset that Mig-29 and Su-27 were fixed.
F-15C, Typhoon, F-15E, Su-27, Rafale.
Best BVR goes to F-15C/E.
Best CAS is tied with F-15E, F-16C, Su-34, Rafale, Gripen, etc.
Neither of those are on F-15C platforms so neither are best. To be the best the platform needs to be fast as well.
@Masterbaishin
Both with 3 minutes of fuel for full afterburner:
F-16C: 18.7 degrees per second of sustained turn rate [AKA energy retention].
Su-27SM: 19.9 degrees per second of sustained turn rate [AKA energy retention].
Data proves that Su-27SM is a superior dogfighter to that of F-16C.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C7Zm72ohfpk?feature=share The B-29 , all your bases are belong to us.
uh no, theres a guy that leaked " secret documents " on the f-16 a few weeks ago, proving the F-16 does in-fact turn faster than the SU-27, so what you just posted, is indeed, INCORRECT