USA A-10C bias needs to be 12.0 to be “fair”

IDK, it used for seeker shutoff IRCCM

gaijin should remove ability to custom sounds(at least for missiles/rockets/etc)

well, VR also gives a bit of pain
i use VR, but in WT it not really needed, mouse(or controller in your case) is enough for sim

I love how people already pointed out before release that the A-10C would be absolutely be tragic to play as in ground RB and toxic to play against in air at it’s current BRs respectively and that the BRs should maybe be swapped or something, but Gaijin still went through with it.

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There’s zero reason why A10C whould be 1.0 BR lower than SU25SM3 in sim (11.3 vs 12.3). It has way more ground ordinance, HMD with IFF, 2 more IRCCM missiles that are also invisible.

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The A-10C gets 4 Aim-9m, not just two, and has a ping less IFF system.

I do 100% agree with you.

I do think in light of how imbalanced the two you mentioned are, they should both be brought to 12.0.

I actually bought my su-25sm3 the other day to play it, F-14s just kept erasing me, not like I had but 2 chances to really do anything. I don’t quite get why the Su-25SM3 doesn’t get 2 r60ms as well as r-73s… it has the pylons for the r-60ms just as the Su-39, and Su-25T do.

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While the people who wanna counter you have to stay low as well

and AGM-65D isnt a 100% kill like your bias fucking KH-series missiles that you get 6 of.

You do realize. That 2 of the Su-25SM3, 25T, & 39, only get 2 TV guided munitions?

Meanwhile, the A-10 gets way more.

Performance in game is worse for most Russian weapons.

And you do realize it’s easy to over-g the pansirs missiles? It’s not hard

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SM-3 also gets KH-38MT
Btw, 25T&39 just have a lot of other guided weapon, that they can use without problems

He was referring to fire and forget munitions, which, the USSR gets less by almost double, if not triple.

Well
6 on A-10C
6 on 25SM-3

A-10 can carry 11.
It can carry 6 Mavericks, 4 JDAM, and 1 Paveway.

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The A-10C get 4 mavs if you want to carry the Tpod. 4 that are way easier to shoot down than the Kh29. Besides that you really have to get to within 9-10km range to really give your mavs the energy to actually reach the target.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that the A-10C should be higher in air RB, but 12.0 for the A-10C really is a fucking joke.

Any pantsir with at least 1 braincell, 1 free hand and 1 functional eye really should never die to an A-10C the overwhelming majority of the time.

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Only 6 mavs if you don’t take the pod, which also means no paveway (unless you abuse the custom loadouts, which might get patched eventually). Also have fun getting within 3-4km of enemy tor/pantsir/ito to actually drop your jdams/paveways lol.

Especially now that they made it easier to shoot down bombs with SAMs in general.

EDIT: also if you count the paveways and mavs you should also count the 16 vikhrs that the Su-39 and Su-25T can carry alongside the Kh29s.

No pod is esentially a death sentence , since the mavs have a what… 1.5x zoom ? The TGP is essential.

There is no Pantsir in Sim EC and there are no battle ratings in Sim Ground. People aren’t complaining that the A-10C is busted in SB Ground.

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You can take the pod and mavericks at the same time. You can do it by equipping APKWS rockets after you equip the mavericks.

Technically a good run in the A-10C can destroy 11 ground targets in one pass if done correctly. Launch Mavericks under 6 miles, follow up with 4 JDAMs, and then use the pod to laser guide a final Paveway. And after that you can just strafe the rest of them pretty easily.

Even if the maverick thing gets patched…the A-10 will still be able to take around 9 guided munitions. Technically it can be 14 iirc if you take a pure Paveway load but that requires effectively making one pass per target.

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Fair, it is really strong in air and specifically sim.

A lot of people seem to think that the A-10C isn’t an absolute joke at 12.0 in ground, so I wasn’t sure if you were talking about ground or air, as “muh jdams” is usually used as an argument why the A-10C is fine in ground RB at 12.0.

Are you sure you can count?

SM3 - 4 F&F AGMs / 4 F&F Bombs ← All take the same pylons
A10C →
6 x AGM-65
6 x JDAM (Only 2 overlap with AGM pylons)

Which means at worst you have 6 F&F weapons. Which is 2 more than the Frogfoot. But assuming best case scenario, you’ve got 6 AGM 65s and 4 JDAMs. Or if we’re ignoring F&F as a requirement and only looking at guided ordnance, you can take 6 AGM 65s, 42 AGR-20s, and 2 JDAMs. Applying the same criteria to Su 25 you get 6. Now we know that frogfoot has a bit of a limited payload, so let’s compare it to the 39.

Su 39 Best Case →
16 x Vikhr
2 x Kh 29
2 x Kh 25

I dunno, but that still seems less guided ordnance.

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JDAM is F&F about the same as the ordinary iron bomb…

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GL to use JDAMs on so slow plane)
Same with paveway
But well, a bit

  • you cant use 6 LAU-88 w/ tgp
    Only by bug