USA A-10C bias needs to be 12.0 to be “fair”

No pod is esentially a death sentence , since the mavs have a what… 1.5x zoom ? The TGP is essential.

There is no Pantsir in Sim EC and there are no battle ratings in Sim Ground. People aren’t complaining that the A-10C is busted in SB Ground.

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You can take the pod and mavericks at the same time. You can do it by equipping APKWS rockets after you equip the mavericks.

Technically a good run in the A-10C can destroy 11 ground targets in one pass if done correctly. Launch Mavericks under 6 miles, follow up with 4 JDAMs, and then use the pod to laser guide a final Paveway. And after that you can just strafe the rest of them pretty easily.

Even if the maverick thing gets patched…the A-10 will still be able to take around 9 guided munitions. Technically it can be 14 iirc if you take a pure Paveway load but that requires effectively making one pass per target.

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Fair, it is really strong in air and specifically sim.

A lot of people seem to think that the A-10C isn’t an absolute joke at 12.0 in ground, so I wasn’t sure if you were talking about ground or air, as “muh jdams” is usually used as an argument why the A-10C is fine in ground RB at 12.0.

Are you sure you can count?

SM3 - 4 F&F AGMs / 4 F&F Bombs ← All take the same pylons
A10C →
6 x AGM-65
6 x JDAM (Only 2 overlap with AGM pylons)

Which means at worst you have 6 F&F weapons. Which is 2 more than the Frogfoot. But assuming best case scenario, you’ve got 6 AGM 65s and 4 JDAMs. Or if we’re ignoring F&F as a requirement and only looking at guided ordnance, you can take 6 AGM 65s, 42 AGR-20s, and 2 JDAMs. Applying the same criteria to Su 25 you get 6. Now we know that frogfoot has a bit of a limited payload, so let’s compare it to the 39.

Su 39 Best Case →
16 x Vikhr
2 x Kh 29
2 x Kh 25

I dunno, but that still seems less guided ordnance.

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JDAM is F&F about the same as the ordinary iron bomb…

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GL to use JDAMs on so slow plane)
Same with paveway
But well, a bit

  • you cant use 6 LAU-88 w/ tgp
    Only by bug

Well
AGR-20 useless against tanks
But yes, if you count anti SPG(theres no other things that it can destroy tbh) will be that much

This is for Air sim, also, even in Grb, if it was 12.0 it wouldn’t matter, people will play 11.7 with it being 11.3.

In fact, it would have been rewards if it was 12.0, if you haven’t considered that.

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You mentioned pantsirs in the post I replied to, so it’s fair to assume that part was about ground battles.

11.3 still means you can actually use it in some games instead of being a free snack for Pantsirs with at least 1 braincell all of the games.

What do you mean with this? Ground or air battles?

Someone mentioned pansirs in a previous post, and I was replying.

Also, I meant better rewards. Auto correct hung me.

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Ah, the ole “when US sucks it’s because they’re bad, but when we suck it’s because of the gear.”

Classic.

I think I still have the recording of 4 stingers hitting before I finally got a “critical” hit. Before then it was just “hit.” Let me see if I can find it. Plane flew around like no biggie, and I’m pretty sure I got the assist, my critical whomped it down enough for another SPAA to connect with its missile. Been a while since I watched/referenced, I may still have it.

The 1st clip is a given. Any missile would’ve missed with that flare dump especially seeker shut off missiles like the 9M.

The 3rd clip you fired an R-73 head-on while the enemy was already turning away. The missile simply doesn’t have enough energy to keep up since it was forced to turn extremely hard.

Also what. Doesn’t the AV-8B (NA) only have 9Ls? If you’re having trouble with the R-73 just imagine the 9L lol.

I love the aim-9L, also, no in that av8b clip, an aim9m wouldn’t have swapped its trajectory, and it would’ve nailed him.

Considering the seeker head on the R-73 should’ve been closed, it too should’ve killed him.

Agreed. Also the 2nd clip looked like it was just too far away, though it’s hard to tell.

He was a little over 1 mile away, not far for something going Mach 2.5, and he was after burning the whole time, so I’m not sure why the R-60 missed

It was probably because your airspeed was so low combined with the angle and the speed he was going.

Side shot would’ve been better than a rear / front shot. Air speed has nothing to do with AAM speed… or guidance.

I’m talking for both the AV-8B and the mirage

Your air speed does affect the missile. The missile is not instantaneously at its max speed. It has to accelerate to get to it. If you are already going fast then you get greater range. Everyone who has used Fox 3s knows this.

You hate the R-73 but love the 9L?

Maybe but the 9M would’ve been 100% blind.

You’re going too slow and you fired an R-60 at a target going cold and possibly going faster than you. An R-60 doesn’t have the range of an R-73.

It absolutely does what are you talking about? Its one of the most important parameters to consider when going for long range targets or targets going cold ESPECIALLY at low altitudes.

Next time post your clips in tacview or sensor mode so we can actually see whats going on instead of speculating.