US top tier problem

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Abrams is the second or third best top tier tank
1: Leo 2/Strv 122’s
2: T-80BVM or M1A2’s

As for SPAA, I agree.

As for the players, I also agree, but there isn’t a very good solution for this.

Nice username btw.

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Abrams is not bad. (“S-Word” probably got this flagged)
We can’t have rank based MM in this game, there are a billion threads showing why.

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The abrams is only a little worse than the leopard 2. The main reason why the us suffers is because America mains suck

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Since when 2nd best firepower is mediocre ?

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this isnt me mate. Im just here for discussion

Breaking the rules will get your comment hidden, yes.

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Youre an italy and china main, what do you think of USA teammates?

I don’t really have an opinion on that. If somebody is having a bad game and the team collapses fast just go to the next game and don’t think too hard about it.

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Bit hard to not think about it when every other game is like that, which is why I and many others dislike top tier.

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I mean you could nuke every other game and win it, it’s a matter of perspective.

Fact of the matter is 8/10 top tier games are decided within the first 3-5 mins.
Almost every game is enjoyable if you’re really good at it-

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At least personally that is not how it goes, and i don’t JUST play Italy and China.

May be 6-7/10. Usually at top tier (11.7-12.7) you have teams just holding W, and either steamrolling or getting steamrolled.

A saying i’ve picked up over the last year is
‘the whine of Abrams at the start of the match is the same as the whine of an enemy nuke siren at the end’

Players are the issue, not the tank. Proven especially through minor nation players typically making up the top 5 while US players have already left with 0-1 kills and maybe a cap

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US Players? Cap?
Nah, those guys never play the objective.

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true, had my first match with the Chally 2 today and was left the ONLY player on my team and defending the point, the rest ran off to spawncamp the enemy, died and then left :c

Tbh i’m lucky i bothered to grind out the AH Mk.1 before i got to the challenger since if i didn’t have anything cool to play in that lineup i might just drop the chally, it really suffers at top tier and I want it dropped in BR to make up for the hideous downsides of a vehicle with none of it’s armour modelled

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literally this
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I’m currently researching the base Chally 2, I had fun with the Chally 1’s but is the 2 really that bad?