US Helicopters

Research country in game is still soviet union

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We all know why US WR is the lowest, lets be honest…

Because they would break the game, even if everyone got their good ones it’d be bad for ground gameplay.

The overwhelming majority of relevant vehicles in game are soviet.

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Technically,a suggestion was passed to the developers months ago regarding the addition of AGM-65 Mavericks to the Apaches,which could already be a nice addition.

The problem resides to the fact that AGM-114L have literally zero counters in the game as we are speaking: they’re mmW-guided, meaning that they ignore heat signatures or smoke clouds.

This is something Gaijin talked about when they added the Brimstone a couple of months ago: the Brimstone has a mmW guidance on it,and without counters in the game imagine a Tornado GR4 or an EFA wreaking havoc with a dozen of them.

In the same “blogpost”,Gaijin stated they will eventually add Electronic Warfare as a whole into the game,meaning that tanks will have ECMs to fight against radar-guided missiles once they’ll be added in the game

Meanwhile,we can only wait the addition of AGM-65 Mavericks into the current Apaches and the AH-64E and its Spike missiles (that are, obviously,IR tracked).

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yes, because there is still no justifiable reason that the apache hasn’t gotten AGM 65s yet.

try years ago

ka 50 missile hit through smoke. kh 38 hit through smoke

THIS FIRES MISSILES THROUGH SMOKE


the entire through smoke argument is a massive cope by gaijin, when the pantsir can simply shoot the hellfires out of the sky.

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the difference here is they go based on operator discretion. if you pop smoke and move a bunch he can only guess your position and will miss if you have enough time. 114L will not miss through smoke and will know your location through it so moving does not help.
KH38’s youre not gonna launch 16 of them at the same time at targets from behind cover.

this thing cant target the whole enemy team at once with 16 missiles that come from top down trajectory. while it can shoot through smoke it cant kill the whole enemy team in seconds from behind cover.

youre not gonna be able to shoot 16 hellfires.

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At this point how radars works in this hame, i don’t think it would be soo OP…

theres no reason you wouldnt be able to discern dead from alive by targeting all hostile moving targets. would be op considering if the enemy team wants to survive they literally have to stop dead in tracks and not play the game and just sit

Don’t ppl do that already?

if you mean with hellfires that you have to use SAL youll be able to engage one target at a time and since you need line of sight for rather long time you either cant guide the missile till end in some situations or just outright get killed. with sal missiles you cant pick 16 enemy targets from behind cover, fire 16 fire and forget missiles at them and go rearm and do the same all in seconds

No, I mean people already just sit still in game, it’s called sniping

I have a feeling that they would perform terrible unless tuned for heli use.
At least on the AV-8B , you have to give them quite a bit of loft so that they dont crash into the ground, and their guidance is not really made for low speed launches.

yeah no sht but if the objective needs to move they can move. now imagine if you couldnt move or you would just get killed with ease. or if the ah64d shoots all of his missiles also against non moving targets after rearming, probably half hitting the people who are “sniping”.
death.

There is also APS, and chaff smoke grenades

yes and before those come 114L has no place ingame. so right now, no place ingame.

Right now we have APS, but I think chaff smoke will be added at the same time as 114L

it isnt common enough. we need the leopards, abrams and others to get it too.

There were so many issues with that response, its actually physically painful. But the underlying issue is the fact that smoke wouldnt work at all (though it rarely does vs IOG equipped AGMs anyway) but there are smoke systems that are designed to block radar seekers and it wouldnt be the first time that gaijin redesigned a weapon system for the sake of balance, it would be simply enough to make it so that smoke blocked MMW seekers.

Its just frustrating both for the Apache with AGM-114L and that it prevents them from any sort of FnF and Brimstone on the Tornado and EFT that it has to be so significantly nerfed and yet no one else is.

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