i find at top tier that once you hit like 450mm theres not too much difference if you use the top round or not since you still have to aim for the same weak spots on all the same tanks even when you get the ammo upgrade.
That’s one point to be made, for sure. Though 3BM60 brings some extra pen to the table, allowing you to get breach on 2A5+ leos/Challenger 2s/TKX easier than with mango, so the tradeoff of extra pen for 0.4s+ is still there in my humble opinion.
True it dose def help
Survivability of the M1 is probably the best of any MBT that doesn’t have spall liners.
That puts it above quite a few tanks, but not all of them by a large margin.
The tanks with spall liners can situationally have an edge in survivability by quite a large margin.
I’d describe the M1’s survivability is a 6.5/10, Strv 122’s are 10/10’s and the T-80BVM as a 5/10.
UFP should most definitely be counted as a proper armour zone for the M1 together with the turret cheeks. Not a single APFSDS projectile in the game will penetrate the UFP.
As for not being able to find hull-down spots, that seems like a lack of map knowledge issue to me, plenty of maps allow for hull-down powerpositions to be used.
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With a first generation thermal imager?
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So, like the Leopard 2A6 and PSO with gen 1 thermals at 12.7?
Well, if anything, just give it DU armor in the LFP. So that nothing can penetrate it. Yeah, that’s possible. And also reinforce the turret cheeks and gun mantlet with armor.
No use man, US mains will still hodl W and get shot in the ass, no DU on the engine blocks or side bro. You need consult Tony Stark to use the materials used to build the Mark III, which is advanced gold-titanium that provide superior kinetic energy absorption to deflect or survive direct hits, put these plates all over Abrams from head to toes so maybe US mains will finally achieve 2.0KD on their Abrams.
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Nah Demokrat will still manage to whiff enough shots on the T-90M to get himself killed even with that kind of protection.
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But beer players on the T-90M and T-80BVM will have to target the Abrams’ weak spots, rather than simply pressing the W button and shooting at the center of the Abrams’ silhouette.
PSO is a bit dogwater compared to the other three because it has an mg turret that is 100 feet tall, which is detrimental to its ability to stealth kill while hull down, like horeshet bro every time I tryna peek with binocular I either get marked by enemy lights then everyone and their stepmoms will look in my direction, feels like I was playing realistic but they are playing arcade with markers. Top tier Abrams has the same issue bro they literally have a landfill zone on top of the turret dome, not only that they are useless and they also make the tank ugly as hell.
Hull down Abrams are such bastards to deal with, look at this shit bro
Even the object 292 can’t pen that turret, I didn’t managed to kill this guy except barrel damage, a lot of shot just bounce off
Top right of the gun mantlet (if you are facing it) has a good chance to hit and detonate the turret ammo rack.
That bastard keeps moving so its hard to actually hit that spot, I do made him sit back and repair the barrel like 3 times, one of the shot nuke one crew and object 292 has dogshit zoom so the lines of the crosshair is actually as thiccc as the entire turret lol to make the matter worse it was wash day yesterday I didn’t wear my gaming underwear thats why my aim sucks bro
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Toss one of those huge Russian HE shells into all that junk on his roof, works a treat!
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And here I thought id rank it higher than 2A5/2A6 lol.
They all should be 12.3 because they are definitely not 2A7/122B equivalent, thermals L and hull protection L, if they still sit at the same br then compression hadn’t kicked in yet.
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I mean it will be like switching to HE, HEAT, APDS etc. in middle of fight - situational.
I know for sure Id take few rounds that could shave half a second off my reload in any tank.
Oh for sure, I was strictly comparing PSO to 2A5/2A6.
The .50cal alone brings ton of utility, and since the marignal increase in protection does not affect mobility thanks to improved engine, theres no downside to it.
Works as described only if you have 3BM42 preselected for reload and you expect to need to have a follow up shot as fast as possible. Otherwise, those four tenths will quickly melt away when you factor in your reaction times.