Not adding Turms III or Falcon?
Sweden with their Leopard. Italy with the 2A7HU, and Israel with the Merkava IV.
dude you gotta be rage baiting, even many youtubers agree that the abrams has like no armor compared to the t90 or leopards.
Two of the three of those are German tanks… Just saying.
Ah yes the US vehicle Turms III and Falcon
I meant besides*
For sure, but that’s starting to be a lot of trees with a better tank than the Abrams. Now we’re only missing France getting the Dutch Leopard 2A8 for one more faction to join the club lmao.
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Because Tank has just appeared, there are few statistics.
Why is it that their main battle tank has worse statistics than the US Abrams?
I’m not. I’m being honest.
Survivability isn’t just about armor. It’s about being able to get out of dodge when you’re in trouble. Which the Abrams happens to excel at. And, again, most of the time you survive the first shot, which is huge compared to the T-series tanks. I do genuinely think the Abrams isn’t the worst off. And I do genuinely think it’s not that bad compared to stuff like the TK(X), Arietes, Leclercs, and Challengers.
I’m not suggesting it’s the best, simply that it is not as bad as people make it out to be. It can be hard to realize - it took me a while and if you look at my old posts I’m sure you’ll see I was a staunch Abrams defender- but it’s, in the end, the truth.
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Except your turret ring gets deleted everytime so your cooked if u dont have teammates near by
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Win rates don’t determine anything other than team skill.
USA has the best lineup in the game 2nd to none.
And the only reason is because Germany and Sweden can’t run 6 Leopard 2A5s in one lineup.
Nothing needs to be done other than American tech tree players getting better at the game.
The other historical issues should be fixed irrelevant of this.
That’s a great point! That shows that people with worse equipment, who generally do pretty poor, are doing pretty well in the Abrams. So again. Maybe it isn’t the Abrams model that’s an issue.
GB, France, the US, Japan, and China currently dont have a vehicle better than the Abrams. Even if France receives the 2A7, that is still 3 nations that are worse off than the US in every regard. And for a nation like Italy, once you die in the 2A7, that’s it- you don’t get a different Leo and are forced to play the Arietes which aren’t great.
I’d also say the Merkava Mk. 4 is not better than the Abrams, but I don’t have enough experience in it or against it to justify my claim. Currently my only big justification is worse top speed and acceleration in comparison to the Abrams, as well as a marginally worse round.
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I have 9 vehicle in my linup and i dont run 6 abrams cause the other variants suck except the m1a2, sep and sep v2
Nothing will ever be enough if the operator is a US main, give the Abrams a 4 seconds reload still they barely maintain 1kd and are permanently chat-banned.
that just isnt true right now
sweden is much better at pretty much everything, only thing its missing is rotor wing, but its tanks and CAS are much stronger
Ok, same with the Leo. Or the Autoloader on the T-XX tanks. I’d rather be in an Abrams with no turret ring than EITHER of those with no basket or autoloader, because at least I know I can back away and quick
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This suggests that too little time has passed for the statistics to be accurate.
Besides, if you look at revivals and kills, the US team is better than the Chinese one.
And if the statistics don’t get much worse? Then what? Is the Abrams magically different because it’s Chinese? It’s functionally the same tank.
And even on release Chinese players have been doing better than when the US A2 SEP released, and it has to face more difficult opponents. So that does also say something.
And yet they are still doing better in the Abrams. Even though they are overall worse. What does that say?
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M1A2, M1A1 HC [which is 3 tanks] are identically protected; USA is the only tech tree in the game to have 12.7 premiums and they’re currently 12.0.