US ground vehicle tree on top of the tree, needs a buff

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right. and if the F-35B got Meteor and the F-35A/C got Aim-120D, I actually think that would be reasonably balanced. A good way to keep airframes that are kinematically very different at the same BR. Even if that included the USMC F-35B getting it too. But the funny part is the US mains saying that only their F-35s should get it and everyone else, including Britian, should have Aim-120Ds

More like 100+

that was the old max range claim, not LSZ

The devs dont realy go by that logic anymore or the F-18E would already have aim120d to make up for its bad FP, they will both likely come to the game with the same loadouts with the British 1 being slightly worse.

No, latest primary sources gives an LSZ of 100+km

I dont have access to it at the moment, but thats from Gunjob

or a more broad reference

So take whatever the AMRAAM (I assume maybe Aim-120C5s? but could also be Aim-120Ds, but dont quote me on that) and multiply it by 3

is the 3x more based on the brochure that says several times more than current AAM? or does it explicitly state AMRAAM

You’d have to ask Gunjob that

But Typically the comaprison is with AMRAAM

well, if it is the “current AAM”, it could very well be MICA because MBDA would obviously have the info for that claim. if its an AMRAAM it could be 120B since that would still be considered fairly modern

If the context is for the Typhoon, then its more likely C5s or C8s that the Typhoon operated prior to Meteor not Aim-120B.

the context is for Meteor not typhoons. you have to consider swedish AMRAAM since Sweden was an early Meteor user too

Brochure claims it has the largest LWZ ever out of all existing AAM missiles.

and the Meteor was specifically created for the Typhoon.

The original design requirements for it were from the UK MoD for the Eurofighter.

Aim-120C5 is actually probably a fair bet for what its being compared to

Yep, which just makes sense being a ramjet.

still, could be the 120B or MICA. MICA being very likely as its another MBDA product


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Unless stated anywhere else. Im going to assume Aim-120C5.

I love how this has gone from US ground buffs to an in-depth discussion on the F-22, consequent balance of 14.3s, and is now just a discussion on who’s planes are the best

its in their best interest to make it seem as good as possible without outright lying. 3x more LSZ than 120C-5 is questionable

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The thread was always “US isnt the best by a large margin, therefore it needs buffs”

that also translates to air where the US cant 1v16 there either and therefore are DOA