More compression! yay!
Vehicle : Mirage IIIE
Gamemode : Air Realistic
BR Change : 10.7 —> 10.3
Reason :
Hello everyone,
I would like to raise a concern regarding the current Battle Rating (BR) of the Mirage IIIE, which sits at 10.7. In its current state, the aircraft feels overtiered and struggles to compete effectively, especially when compared to other aircraft at similar or even lower BRs.
First, let’s take the MiG-21SMT as a direct comparison. The SMT sits at 10.3, yet it has access to four infrared missiles and four radar missiles, while the Mirage IIIE is limited to only two IR’s and only one radar missiles. This already places the Mirage at a disadvantage in terms of offensive capability. Additionally, the MiG-21SMT benefits from strong acceleration, good climb rate, and competitive flight performance, making it a very capable platform at its BR.
Meanwhile, the Mirage IIIE not only has fewer missiles but also suffers from:
- Limited sustained turn performance
- Energy retention that doesn’t compensate for its disadvantages
- A relatively situational radar and missile loadout
At 10.7, the Mirage IIIE is also frequently matched against aircraft at 11.0, which further amplifies the issue. These higher-tier aircraft often have:
- More advanced missiles (both IR and radar-guided)
- Better avionics and radar systems
- Superior overall performance
In such matchups, the Mirage IIIE becomes heavily outclassed, with very little room to leverage its strengths.
Given these factors, lowering the Mirage IIIE to BR 10.3 would place it in a more balanced environment. It would still face capable opponents, but without being consistently outmatched in both firepower and performance.
This adjustment would not make the aircraft overpowered—it would simply make it competitive and more enjoyable to play.
Thank you for your consideration.
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its 12.3 with PL5EII the 11.3 only gets 5C
we cant do that instead they should decompress not recompress
What the f gaijin
What in gods name was the idea behind removing the HEATFS on the Ikv 103? I will literally never play the Ikv 103 again after this.
- Move Ikv 103 to 3.3 without HEATFS(ahistorical nerf for no reason)
- Nah thats dumb, keep the 4.0 BR and HEATFS round(historical)
- i dont care
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You’re not entirely wrong. I would argue its still decompression since there wasn’t really as much occupying the 4.0-5.0 range before, but I think you have a point about the lack of thought.
You can’t just move everything up in an existing bracket with no changes besides BR while also not adding any replacements to fill the gaps left. A few tanks had uptiers a long time coming, but I broadly would have prefered this overhaul be implemented over a 2-3 updates. They literally threw together this overhaul at the last minute based on thread feedback, so its not a shock it’s a bit rough.
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the mig 29 change should be in realistic too. Also the g55 should NOT go up in br
I’ma be real with you I love the Turan III, but if the panzer IV are going up so does the Turan, it’s a better Panzer IV and IS-2 hybrid trolly armor, crazy mobility and engine armor for reverse strats, it should be 4.3 or 4.7
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Pretty much 90% of the props they have going up in BR, should not be going up in BR
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Pz.IV H
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Rank: II→III
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All Battles: 4.0 → 4.0 (No Change)
Rationale:
The original justification of dropping the German PzIVs from tier III to II was the BR-change to 3.7. Now that they are being moved back up, it would be fair to update their status back to Rank III, so players can use them for events again.
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cant use red text switch it to Orange
C.202 Folgore
Mode → ARB
BR Change: 3.0 → 2.7
Reason: This plane has a very lackluster armament despite first looks, the Italian Breda-SAFAT 12.7mil machine gun has very poor ballistics and damage despite the belts its given.
The flight performance of this plane is supposed to be the saving factor of it, but at 3.0 it is pretty average and so it ends up with very poor armament and without a flight model to carry said flaw.
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T77E1
Mode: N/A
BR Change: 4.0 → 4.0(no change)
Rank: II → III
Rationale:
Almost all 4.0 vehicles in every country in the game are 4.0. This tank is extremely good for rank 2 and could definitely use a rank III buff. This could also let it’s BR be moved up higher, but i highly recommend against it
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C.202EC
Mode → ARB
BR Change: 4.0 → 3.7 / 3.3
C.202EC is the 20mil carrying model of the C.202, however the differences end there. The C.202EC has the same engine and airframe as it’s 3.0 variant with no additional upgrades, this means the gunpods and extra weight of the 20mm MG151/20s tank the performance of this aircraft even further.
The C.202EC should become a sidegrade to the C.205, while the C.205 would offer expectacular flight performance but poor armament and ballistics, the C.202EC would present a slightly below average flight performance for harder hitting 20mil cannon with slightly better ballistics. (MG151/20 suffers from poor ballistics)
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Yeah and you need to do that for 7-10 min depending on map to reach that altitude. When you done climbing he already on the way back to AF, thx for your gameplay kekw.
While this wouldn’t affect BR in all likelyhood, I wanted to throw out there that all/most of the German and Italian aircraft with MG 151s need the option to switch between the 15 and 20 mm barrels. There might be a few exceptions depending on when/how a plane was made that could prevented this, but this should be something they could do on most aircraft with these guns. There are a lot of bug reports for German aircraft missing this option. There’s even a report for the G.55 missing this option, so it stands to reason that even earlier Italian aircraft should be able to use the 15 mm if desired.
While its not as potent, I can certainly see many people appreciating the much better ballistics and armor penetration of 15 mm ammunition.
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get gaijin to actually decompress the game then.
Yak-15 (production)
Mode → All
BR Change: None
Swap the Yak-15P’s and Yak-15’s positions, the Yak-15P is a far more punishing starter jet for USSR players than the regular Yak-15 due to the single 23mil cannon with 60 rounds total instead of the pair that the production variant has with 120 rounds total.
One might also add that the “Yak-15P” designation never existed, as this aircraft is supposed to be the rushed airframes made for the parade of 18 of august 1946, so it will make more sense for the full production variant to be more accesible than the rare batch of unbaked parade “feathers”
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Pz.IV J & Pz.Bef.Wg.IV J
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- Realistic Battles: 4.0 → 3.7
Rationale:
Like it’s brethren the Ausf. H, the Ausf. J variant offers more firepower but with a caveat. It trades it for poor gun handling, diminishing it’s capabilities to quickly respond to threats. Keeping it at 3.7 seems fair along with the Ausf.G as G & J can complement each other. Former providing more mobility in the platform while the latter offering more penetration in a similar platform.
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